tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post3395502745312441055..comments2023-10-24T10:23:42.618+02:00Comments on palingates: Looking at $arah Palin's legal fund from a criminal law perspectivereginahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04311352941909440862noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-27038927401671479052009-07-27T03:08:43.508+02:002009-07-27T03:08:43.508+02:00If she attempts to run for any office, great empha...If she attempts to run for any office, great emphasis needs to be placed on AIP and especially Seven Mountains. She would fit right in on C Street in Washington. Those involved in this group should be voted out too. Make no mistake they have a massive agenda to overtake the world and have complete dominion over it.johttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15959363740986279527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-59148747631588172962009-07-27T00:32:54.088+02:002009-07-27T00:32:54.088+02:00Why are so many of these super religious ( suppose...Why are so many of these super religious ( supposedly) people so crooked and such liars. This is in response to what Jo wrote. I am not Christian but I have studied the teachings of Jesus and hevwould not condone most of Sarah Palin's political actions. I can't speak for personal but she does lie nonstop. Her outright lying is incredibly disturbing to me. I have not been reading or going on Twitter much because she and her followers make me sick.<br /><br />They act like they are superior to everyone else and the way they treat President Obama is disgusting and unAmerican. From what I can tell he is a moral man in his words and actions.Sarah is not moral at all.<br />The country would be better off if the greedy self/serving, corporate ass kissing Republicans like Sarah went away. They are so full of crap! Most are not even admitting there is a problem with health care in our country. It makes me sick. I sincerely hope Sarah stays out of politics. She treated Alaskans like crap and most of America knows she is not capable of being president.<br /><br />Sorry for my rant but the hypocrisy is astounding! A big celebration for a governor that walked off the job!! She is STILL telling the 2 million dollar lie and the media just repeats it. She QUIT her job because she sucked at it and resented it's limitations to her. She waned to do whatever the F she wanted including making more money. Some Alaskans need to sue her but I doubt they will.Lisabethnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-32448194788050776312009-07-26T15:59:52.022+02:002009-07-26T15:59:52.022+02:00For SJK (more to come!):
Alaska has its own "...For SJK (more to come!):<br /><br />Alaska has its own "scheme to defraud" criminal prohibition as well, and there's the trusty federal standby mail fraud act:<br /><br />"Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises . . . [uses the mail commits a felony]"’ 18 U.S.C. & No. 21; 1341.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-38754783711375358072009-07-26T15:09:25.327+02:002009-07-26T15:09:25.327+02:00I pratice criminal law. In 100% of the criminal t...I pratice criminal law. In 100% of the criminal trials I've been involved in and in which proof of criminal intent is an element of the crime(s), that proof is inferential: I have yet to see a criminal defendant admit specific criminal intent. <br /><br />In a case involving a larceny or other property crime, the easiest way to prove criminal intent is by inference, starting with who derived financial benefit.<br /><br />For example, if (1) someone says she's out-of-pocket half a million dollars in legal fees; (2) a fund is set up by which to pay those supposed legal fees; (3) there is evidence that those legal fees either don't exist as represented and/or aren't the sole recipients of the funds people parted with based on those statements.....I don't have much trouble making a criminal case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-14047754508279665512009-07-26T12:05:17.230+02:002009-07-26T12:05:17.230+02:00Regina,
Your post was excellent, and great resea...Regina, <br /><br />Your post was excellent, and great research done. However, an attorney addressed this matter on mudflats and stated that the problem with the "criminal" aspect of it is <i>intent</i>, and that is much harder to prove, and the standards for proof are much greater.<br /><br />You would have to prove that Palin not only knew about this fund in totality, but also deliberately intended to set out to defraud people. Neither of which would be easy to prove, and personally I don't think that Palin set out to defraud people.<br /><br />It still would be interesting to have someone knowledgeable on Alaska criminal law weigh in on this, for their perspective and knowledge.EyeOnYounoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-86501949175472716392009-07-26T08:37:19.947+02:002009-07-26T08:37:19.947+02:00I believe the charge in '93 was for fishing wi...I believe the charge in '93 was for fishing without a license.. She used to spend a lot of time at the bars back then.. She was a fixture at a bar called the 4corners between Wasilla and Palmer, I used to see her there frequently.. I guess that was before she became a liar for jesusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-27968385122973614722009-07-26T08:08:38.987+02:002009-07-26T08:08:38.987+02:00Helen, I know nothing about statutes, it looks li...Helen, I know nothing about statutes, it looks like it has to do with fishing. Wrong size holes in a fish net? That is important in Alaska because of the wildlife. It is also common for Alaskans to violate these regulations. She pleaded down to a misdemeanor and paid a grand. <br /><br />Did you see the Alaska Report? Request Investigation of Palin Administration <br /> http://alaskareport.com/news39/x71281_investigation.htm<br />I hope this doesn't get swept under the rug. What does Palin have against food safety? <br /> http://blowpoppalin.blogspot.com/2009/07/wasilla-no-glove-no-love-wiener-101.html <br /> It would be very interesting to learn what happened to Dochtermann's report and all he so gallantly tried to make known. "...it was too political..." to start an investigation? It is not the first time her whole operation appears to be run as a crime family.BLOW-POP-PALINhttp://blowpoppalin.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-48786595363065166162009-07-26T06:24:23.481+02:002009-07-26T06:24:23.481+02:00Interesting comment on HuffPo:
Sarah Palin is cer...Interesting comment on HuffPo:<br /><br />Sarah Palin is certainly no stranger to the Alaskan justice system. Just for fun, I typed in "Palin" in Alaska Trial Court web site and bunch of cases popped up.<br /><br />http://www.courtrecords.alaska.gov/pa/pa.urd/PAMW6500<br /><br />Between Bristol, Track, Todd and Sarah, there are 18 court cases.<br /><br />Of interest was that Governor Palin pleaded "no contest" to a charge in the criminal court and paid $1000 fine in 1993. Criminal Negligence?<br /><br />The case is "3DI-93-00249CR State of Alaska vs. Palin Ms, Sarah"<br />5AAC06.370(A): CRIM NEG FAIL REG NT<br /><br />Does anyone know what this Statute is? http://www.courtrecords.alaska.gov/pa/pa.urd/pamw2000.o_casedsp_lst?72435535<br /><br />Does it make Sarah Palin a criminal?Helennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-33099578643965537562009-07-26T05:57:56.372+02:002009-07-26T05:57:56.372+02:00From HuffPo:
mirandawilde
Sarah Palin should n...From HuffPo:<br /><br /> mirandawilde <br /><br />Sarah Palin should now have plenty of time to answer these ten questions regarding her income, taxes, expenses she charged to the state, etc. posed by David Cay Johnston back in October of 2008- very interesting questions indeed:<br /><br />http://www.niemanwatchdog.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=Ask_this.view&askthisid=378<br /><br /> Posted 11:08 PM on 07/25/2009<br />`````````````<br /><br /> JessWonderin <br /><br /><br />wow . . .<br />and I guess it would explain the ONLY Lien note in a "public Record":<br /><br />http://dnr.alaska.gov/ssd/recoff/sag/DocDisplay.cfm?SelectedDoc=20010228400&District=311<br /><br />. . . which show the SAME Sports Complex CONTRACTOR (and sponsor of Todds Racing "Team") as the LIEN HOLDER on the Palin Construction LOAN!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-11713067562278115572009-07-26T05:47:24.389+02:002009-07-26T05:47:24.389+02:00The reality is, she's out of office and will n...The reality is, she's out of office and will never never hold office again, unless something goes really seriously wrong with America, like Dick Cheney getting elected President!Helennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-19911766488887973272009-07-26T04:36:59.041+02:002009-07-26T04:36:59.041+02:00No wedding right...???
and where is TAAAAAAAAAAAA...No wedding right...???<br /><br />and where is TAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHDDDDDDDDDDDDD???????????<br /><br />Is he shagging Megan???basheerthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00769950942470390914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-87887089370523026272009-07-26T04:23:04.984+02:002009-07-26T04:23:04.984+02:00Mail fraud. Wire Fraud.....Mail fraud. Wire Fraud.....sjk from the belly of the planehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16534445418871394872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-22913928121094745262009-07-26T03:57:22.784+02:002009-07-26T03:57:22.784+02:00She should have to show proof she has $600,000 in...She should have to show proof she has $600,000 in legal bills as she claims. She over inflated the cost to the state by more than one million seven hundred dollars, it would stand to reason her other figure is greatly overstated as well. She must be stopped, I believe in God, but these nuts can't be allowed to take over our country. Someday they will be shocked to find out that God did not want them to use him the way they are. A loving God does not want people to lie, cheat, steal, and kill in his name.johttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15959363740986279527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-24680210592049844072009-07-26T03:53:20.977+02:002009-07-26T03:53:20.977+02:00They were coverinf this on CNN today. They had a r...They were coverinf this on CNN today. They had a reporter up in Alaska covering her leaving. The reporter stated that none of the ethics charges had any "national traction" and would not effect her. This really bothered me because some haven't even been decided yet!! He was very dismissive of them! And Sarah whines about the media nit covering things! She has lied and lied and used the word frivilous so many times I find the media just takes it. CNN especially does not work very hard to investigate the truth.<br /><br />That is why someone or multiple people have to file lawsuits. Palin gets away with everything. She is a horrible human being. Regina keep up the good work.Lisabethnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-16292093875880405122009-07-26T02:47:52.726+02:002009-07-26T02:47:52.726+02:00From a first-hand report from the Anchorage picnic...From a first-hand report from the Anchorage picnic over at the Sea4Pee:<br /><br />"Sarah was back there dishing up food for 2 hours with a bright smile. I didn't see her family but Kristin Cole was alongside the whole time."<br /><br />Hmmm . . .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-427378497262952862009-07-26T02:09:41.987+02:002009-07-26T02:09:41.987+02:00Hey guys- just to interject here. The citations a...Hey guys- just to interject here. The citations are great but this stuff is really a bear to prove.<br /><br />Legally we can give $26,000 to ANYONE (as a couple) - including to the Trust,by simply paying the Gift Tax. There is also the Lifetime exemption (not sure what it is this year) - we just have to pay a Gift Tax. The recipient is not required to pay income tax, but is required to REPORT it I believe.<br /><br />This was set originally for individuals to give tax free gifts to their kids - NOT POLITICIANS. There are ways of getting around this - such as paying a son's car payment on VISA by check, etc, that don't trigger the Gift Tax accumulation. <br /><br />As I said, the original intent was for families to be able to pass money to their family members without paying taxes. Obviously the Trust has chosen to solicit funds using the Gift Tax verbage, interstate, for the benefit of $arah's "family".<br /><br />Legally I suspect she is on firm ground - but I also agree that there should be a tax implication for receiving funds to pay off personal bills via solicitation. It should be reportable by them and taxable as income - <br /><br />She will get around it by having the funds sent direct to creditors and having no direct contact with the funds. (Similar to rolling a 401(k) into an IRA). It's a loophole, a good one by intent though. <br /><br />I'm not sure the IRS looks at it in a bad way - because the fact is, it is allowed. Yes it's cheating, skating, walking on the edge and really sort of skanky (sorta like $arah).<br /><br />I don't know how much different it is than politicians receiving gifts from Lobbyists. And Trusts are funny instruments. They were designed to avoid taxes (I'm sure like us that some of you have Living Trusts so the Feds don't get your money- but your kids do).<br /><br />I hope it's taxable to them - and at the very least, that someone has to show a bill has been paid, but I think Gov Grifter has found a loophole that will let her walk away with a ton of money. Sorry.<br /><br />I hope sincerely that I am wrong.<br /><br />(Another funny thing about Trusts, if you have one and want to make a change, please do it and do it right. We've tried to bust one for years - so far we've been able to access it (which was the intent) but it is under extremely tight control. We've tried to grab it for our kids ... and are having a difficult time, even though they could really USE it right now and they are the ULTIMATE beneficiaries.<br /><br />Write your Trusts well - they are not an easy instrument to deal with.basheerthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00769950942470390914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-21534036597014279932009-07-26T01:38:19.169+02:002009-07-26T01:38:19.169+02:00Mail and wire fraud?Mail and wire fraud?sjk from the belly of the planehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16534445418871394872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-87758241519653746672009-07-26T01:22:59.126+02:002009-07-26T01:22:59.126+02:00It would be the icing on the cake if Shannyn set t...It would be the icing on the cake if Shannyn set the wheels in motion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-28095002744476063132009-07-26T01:21:23.585+02:002009-07-26T01:21:23.585+02:00Anonymous at 20:27--
That's a great question:...Anonymous at 20:27--<br /><br />That's a great question: it looks like the $13,000 section might have been cut & pasted from a traditional trust instrument where you would have potential income tax issues with gift deductions maximized for a single donor (or a donor couple filing jointly).<br /><br />The way I read it is that the $150and the $13,000 refer to completely different things: supposedly an individual contribution can be up to $150 ("coincidentally" any amount above that would be required to be reported as a gift to a public official under state law). <br /><br />But the public official who is the named beneficiary, and any other beneficiaries (family members, etc.) can make a yearly withdrawal (on demand, with no evident restriction on the purpose to which the $ is put) up to the maximum non-taxable "gift" amount allowed under the Tax Code for that year (currently 13 grand a year). If you've got, say, eight possible beneficiaries in the public official's household alone, that's over a hundred grand they potentially can take out every year for whatever purposes the adults want. <br /><br />The money may come in by $150 increments, but the terms of the "Trust" seem to allow it to flood back out in far, far bigger amounts. <br /><br />So a "giver" can give $150, but a "taker" can take much more, every single year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-56311096018944068402009-07-26T00:42:14.371+02:002009-07-26T00:42:14.371+02:00Brava Regina - Many thanks SG! You've answere...Brava Regina - Many thanks SG! You've answered the many questions I've had about this slush fund since I first read it. I've always felt it was illegal in so many ways, but you spell out exactly why & what can be done. <br /><br />Please, please, please someone in AK set the wheels in motion for criminal charges.Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07949339594594625887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-69820677919842984172009-07-25T21:49:33.729+02:002009-07-25T21:49:33.729+02:00That should be "interstate," of course.
...That should be "interstate," of course.<br /><br />Sorry, everyone. More caffeine needed.SGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-71215907592959563032009-07-25T21:17:03.221+02:002009-07-25T21:17:03.221+02:00Very interesting !!
I imagine you wake up somet...Very interesting !! <br /><br />I imagine you wake up sometimes in the middle of the night in a big ol' "AHA ! " moment. So many issues and pieces to connect. <br /><br />What a terribly tiring woman she is! <br /><br />Thank you for this news on Screen Door Saturday. Salute !BuffaloGalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-45132593709153359322009-07-25T20:57:58.128+02:002009-07-25T20:57:58.128+02:00Just to clarify, this is just some possibly releva...Just to clarify, this is just some possibly relevant state law. <br /><br />Where funds/property are being solicited intrastate and by means of the internet, a wealth of federal criminal laws (including tax laws with potential criminal penalties) also may apply.<br /><br />Stay tuned for some of that information!SGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-72973261084985720352009-07-25T20:47:57.233+02:002009-07-25T20:47:57.233+02:00Well now, is there an Alaskan who will follow thro...Well now, is there an Alaskan who will follow through with what you have laid out? A court of law is where this AFT should end up. Would be a shame if no one acts on this info.<br /><br />Thanks ReginaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-15269654705927921402009-07-25T20:41:33.856+02:002009-07-25T20:41:33.856+02:00http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/25/palin-fac...http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/25/palin-faces-questions-as-_n_244843.html<br /><br />I have posted a link to your article on HuffPo.ProChoiceGrandmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17417938073684717385noreply@blogger.com