tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post5538156961324796806..comments2023-10-24T10:23:42.618+02:00Comments on palingates: Sarah Palin's ifs and buts...reginahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04311352941909440862noreply@blogger.comBlogger210125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-25344842361620246132009-10-17T15:37:28.101+02:002009-10-17T15:37:28.101+02:00A more accurate title would be:
"Palin agree...A more accurate title would be:<br /><br />"Palin agrees to release her (Totally Made Up, BS, Pretending She Gave Birth To Trig, Did-It-Herself-On-The-Home-Computer) Medical Record."indy_girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05846998274875545333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-27443261999307821062009-10-17T03:04:21.444+02:002009-10-17T03:04:21.444+02:00Anon @19:40
What if she had her tubes tied, before...Anon @19:40<br />What if she had her tubes tied, before Trigg was born? If that info ever came out It would blow her baby story all to Hell.<br />______________________________<br /><br />Not really. There are cases where women who have had their tubes tied have gotten pregnant. It is not 100%. Granted, the chances are slim, but it would not *prove* anything.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Also, I recall the discussion that Levi stated he was there when Trig was born at 6 am, but I was just reading a People magazine article on Bristol (the 2nd or 3rd one they've done with her) and noticed this:<br /><br /><i>Her relationship with Levi began to go bad soon after Tripp was born on Dec. 27. Bristol, home alone with her mother and baby brother, felt contractions the night before. Sarah drove her to the hospital around 11 p.m. and stayed at her side. <b>Levi arrived in the middle of the night and was also in the delivery room for the birth around 6 a.m.</b> </i><br /><br />Is Levi getting his stories confused? Were both babies born around 6 am? <br /><br /><a href="http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20282000,00.html" rel="nofollow">Bristol Palin</a>EyeOnYouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08663121057208151750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-25041243935901044032009-10-16T20:08:03.465+02:002009-10-16T20:08:03.465+02:00Reading the article of the birth of Piper, I was s...Reading the article of the birth of Piper, I was struck suddenly by the irony of her full name. Piper Indi Grace Palin. Actually it was her initials that caught my attention. PIG Palin What parent would do that to a child? Maybe someone who thought about lipstick on a pig?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-4177853370745910722009-10-16T19:40:24.479+02:002009-10-16T19:40:24.479+02:00One reason for the mystery involved in Sarah's...One reason for the mystery involved in Sarah's medical records could be.... What if she had her tubes tied, before Trigg was born? If that info ever came out It would blow her baby story all to Hell.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-30048637508916064932009-10-16T08:22:22.324+02:002009-10-16T08:22:22.324+02:00Amy1, the information about the TWO school bus van...Amy1, the information about the TWO school bus vandalism incidents is in Max Blumenthall's new book, Republican Gomorra. The final chapter is about Sarah. <br /><br />I have never seen anything else connecting Levi to an incidence of vandalism. I asked Gryphen about it but he hasn't commented.midnightcajunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17264117109930188639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-32520679995881775022009-10-16T02:43:47.163+02:002009-10-16T02:43:47.163+02:00This comment has been removed by the author.the norwegian bluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00362702634534307711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-12937985442740169872009-10-15T21:02:39.344+02:002009-10-15T21:02:39.344+02:00Sarah Palin is a complete fraud.
Sarah Palin is a...Sarah Palin is a complete fraud.<br /><br />Sarah Palin is a complete fraud.<br /><br />Sarah Palin is a complete fraud.<br /><br />Sarah Palin is a complete fraud.<br /><br />Sarah Palin is a complete fraud.<br /><br />Sarah Palin is a complete fraud.<br /><br />Sarah Palin is a complete fraud.<br /><br />...just in case you didn't notice!Duh!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-67233345615449084292009-10-15T03:20:15.233+02:002009-10-15T03:20:15.233+02:00Anon @14 October 20:46 said...
"I believe ...Anon @14 October 20:46 said... <br /><br />"I believe the baby known as Trig was born on December 27, 2007 and transported from a hospital ICU in Fairbanks in February. Prochoice Grandma sounds as if she's really put the pieces of this story together."<br /><br />The Dec. 27th date is one of the dates given as T2's birthdate. Knowing that Ps like using the same dates over and over, then the 27th sounds possible for T1.<br /><br />I agree that the Fairbanks scenario sounds like possible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-78833891945562908662009-10-15T02:27:39.176+02:002009-10-15T02:27:39.176+02:00Anon00:55 -- Remember, SP was not pregnant, so no ...Anon00:55 -- Remember, SP was not pregnant, so no risk of HAPE. The Wild Ride was wild <i>only in retrospect.</i> She was just sitting there in first class, sipping her drink, loosening whatever smaller belly she had on, if any, for the trip home.<br /><br />I keep beating this drum because it confused my thinking SO MUCH to be on the fence, earlier. If SP was pregnant, then a, b, c, . . . . If she was not pregnant, then d, e, f . . . . Geez, it gave me a headache and go too complicated for good conclusions.<br /><br />That's why I was nattering on so long-windedly about CBJ not being involved in this phase of the hoax (no quotes, no letter by CBJ; all of it invented by SP, <a href="http://palingates.blogspot.com/2009/05/sarah-palins-wild-ride-in-her-own-words.html" rel="nofollow">probably on the fly after being caught by the reporter in the leaking fluid lie stupidly broadcast by her father)</a>. CBJ at least has some really good deniability in place. Remember, "deniabiliy," (sometimes stated as "plausible deniability") does not mean you weren't involved, didn't do it, are innocent, etc. I just means you have your ducks in a row and can deny it and probably get away with it.Amy1https://www.blogger.com/profile/05087449911330111345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-23275424747652004882009-10-15T01:04:59.595+02:002009-10-15T01:04:59.595+02:00Good catch with the article about Piper's birt...Good catch with the article about Piper's birth! Another part of mythology: going in to redirect email to home and taking some sick leave, years later becomes "went back to work with Piper with her the next day."<br /><br />Both Sarah and Todd seem to find that "perfect" is the word that most describes the infants of the clan. But "convenient" is a new one. Maybe sort of like being pregnant for only a month? /sarcArmchairJanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06227611891127796064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-28461582503043517242009-10-15T00:55:41.312+02:002009-10-15T00:55:41.312+02:00Let's not forget the risk of HAPE (high altitu...Let's not forget the risk of HAPE (high altitude pulmonary edema) in downs syndrome children. Either CBJ is unaware of this or she just doesn't care because SP flew some 7,000 miles in her last trimester. None of this adds up no matter how you look at itAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-29661163390658899602009-10-15T00:48:03.399+02:002009-10-15T00:48:03.399+02:00Reesie / Vaughn
In my opinion, the important sent...Reesie / Vaughn<br /><br />In my opinion, the important sentence in this article is:<br /><br />"The mayor said she had been to work Tuesday, but only to redirect e-mail and phone messages to her home."<br /><br />This is a clear indication to me that she did not "return to work" like she did with Trig, which is important because Sarah compared these events and made it seem that they were basically "identical". However, she apparently did NOT take Piper to the office three day after the birth, but stayed at home and did some work from there - and we have no idea how much work she actually did.<br /><br />And remember that the<br /><br /><a href="http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-october-20-2008/understanding-real-america-in-wasilla?videoId=188638" rel="nofollow">MAYOR OF WASILLA DOESN’T HAVE SUCH A HARD JOB</a><br /> <br />(one of my most favourite clips ever)Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06342444888520052108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-7461996312317865592009-10-15T00:36:42.442+02:002009-10-15T00:36:42.442+02:00Skeptical: thanks for your posts. I was feeling ve...Skeptical: thanks for your posts. I was feeling very lonely in my opinion that cbj should run , not walk, to the meRest media outlet and refute the advice associated with her name regardless if Sarah was not pregnant ( as I believe she wasn't, as a physician cbj needs to set the record straight. Say " any high risk pregnant woman leaking amniotic fluid preterm should be examined by an ob before commencing travel plans" at the very least. <br />Anyway , thanks. At least one person gets my view. Feel like writing some letters to the aafp, Alaska state board, etc???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-67971382572288629422009-10-15T00:06:40.513+02:002009-10-15T00:06:40.513+02:00Reesie
Here is the tinyurl for the article on Pip...Reesie<br /><br />Here is the tinyurl for the article on Piper's birth on Monday March 19 2001<br /><br />http://tinyurl.com/yfakztbVaughnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09535905887399413785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-92109247157153832052009-10-15T00:03:51.989+02:002009-10-15T00:03:51.989+02:00If someone were maligning my professional reputati...If someone were maligning my professional reputation by making statements about advice that I HAD NOT given, I certainly would have made it clear that I was uninvolved.<br /><br />Perhaps the real reason CBalwin has allowed the statements to be attributed to her is because she knows the truth about the baby's origin and SP paid her to keep her mouth shut. Again, she is complicit and that shows very poor judgment.Skepticalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-79463042913508179052009-10-14T23:52:29.464+02:002009-10-14T23:52:29.464+02:00Amy1,
If CBaldwin did not say those things, she m...Amy1,<br /><br />If CBaldwin did not say those things, she may as well have. She allowed the statements to be attributed to her. She also went along with reading the statement on the eve of the election. What else but her active involvement would have compelled her to do so? I don't buy her innocence. She is complicit in the charade.Skepticalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-84278643385811255442009-10-14T23:23:12.544+02:002009-10-14T23:23:12.544+02:00anon @ 21:07 -- Miss Sarah did indeed announce her...anon @ 21:07 -- Miss Sarah did indeed announce her 'pregnancy', just after McCain was declared the Republican nominee, as has been discussed here. I think the date was March 5th or 6th. That is when someone was quoted (I think it was ADN columnist Elsie Paktokak, not sure if last name is spelled right) as saying, "Where are you keeping that baby, in your pocket ?"<br /><br />Most Alaskans knew at that time, and there were 'man on the street' tv interviews. The surprise about the 'birth' itself was due to the fact that it was a month earlier than expected as Sarah had announced a May delivery date.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-49443562730452102172009-10-14T23:19:26.993+02:002009-10-14T23:19:26.993+02:00But Skeptical: CBJ DIDN'T say anything! That...But Skeptical: CBJ DIDN'T say anything! That's the whole point!! We all thought she did, because SP said she did, but now that we know SP was not pregnant, it makes no sense for CBJ to have said anything. The newspaper quotes were most likely offered by SP and printed as fact. As ProChoiceGrandma explains above, cbj's silence on all this is deafening. <br /><br />Certainly CBJ would not have said what SP claims CBJ said -- because CBJ, of all people, would know that SP was not pregnant.Amy1https://www.blogger.com/profile/05087449911330111345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-47828579255492683662009-10-14T22:43:48.291+02:002009-10-14T22:43:48.291+02:00IF Palin was pregnant with T1 - nobody at the chur...IF Palin was pregnant with T1 - nobody at the church, or all the doctor's appointments, or family or neighbors or friends or political foes or goody-two-shoes, or coworkers - nobody has any convincing statements or evidence that she gave birth to T1, besides a letter by a fellow church person CBJ which says nothing concrete. All these people in all these everyday activies, and the only thing that comes up is her inconsistant pregnant looking bump. Everybody seems surprised - everybody?! Over and over again, you hear how everyone was surprised. T1 supposidly needs special help after the birth, in Fairbanks, and no one around that time or that hospital or in that city says anything? No one? She hid T1 from everbody all the time? I don't think so - she didn't have T1 and I bet CBJ knows who the mother or father is. Palin made up the story to make herself look like a superwoman.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-61543671648252484912009-10-14T22:22:57.466+02:002009-10-14T22:22:57.466+02:00ProchoiceGrandma,
I agree with your scenario on t...ProchoiceGrandma,<br /><br />I agree with your scenario on the birth of Trig in January. Thank you for your in depth analysis.<br /><br />What I do not understand is why CBaldwin said ANYTHING? Why didn't she just keep her mouth shut? By doing so, she would have not had so much controversy about her involvement with a cover up. <br /><br />In addressing whether CBaldwin's "good name" is being maligned, well I think she brought that on herself. Her poor advise to a woman supposedly 7 months pregnant with a special needs child, leaking amniotic fluid, and having contractions should not have been to fly home from Texas to Alaska. The only proper advice would have been to go to the nearest hospital and get things monitored. For instance, the baby's heart beat, the rate of amniotic fluid loss, the actual timing of contractions. <br /><br />Anything other than this is poor medical practice and she should be called on to justify such ridiculous medical guidance. Had this been an actual pregnancy and a medical emergency developed, CBaldwin would be held responsible inpart for any untoward outcome. She certainly would be named in a legal suit.<br /><br />I laugh everytime I read that the "contractions had settled down." What does that mean? Do physicians always take the word of their patients who are thousands of miles away? Or do they do the PRUDENT thing and advise the patient to seek local medical care?<br /><br />Last, had SP refused to under go examination at a local facility, a PRUDENT physician would have covered her ass by making certain, in writing, that she did advise a medical examination and that the patient acted outside of that advice!<br /><br />Sorry, but I have no sympathy for CBaldwin, who I think acted without thought and has damaged the reputation of fine family physicians.<br /><br />The religion connection, well that's just icing on the cake.Skepticalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-44719422590788724212009-10-14T22:21:51.671+02:002009-10-14T22:21:51.671+02:00Does anyone know if this statement is true made by...Does anyone know if this statement is true made by Palin in the NYT article that she gave birth to Piper on Monday and returned to work on Tuesday?<br /><br />"She assured them she would not take much time off: she had given birth to Piper on a Monday and returned to work on a Tuesday, the child in tow. “To any critics who say a woman can't think and work and carry a baby at the same time,” she said, “I'd just like to escort that Neanderthal back to the cave.”Reesiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06021606017912688047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-37857923479365802142009-10-14T21:31:50.964+02:002009-10-14T21:31:50.964+02:00It may have been in the NY Times article that it w...It may have been in the NY Times article that it was revealed the Palin's gave away all their baby furniture after Piper's birth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-63832984198365715352009-10-14T21:07:23.036+02:002009-10-14T21:07:23.036+02:00"A good opening to such a story might be quot..."A good opening to such a story might be quotes from man-on-the-street interviews done by tv stations when sarah first announced her pregnancy. The statements I heard at the time expressed surprise"<br />~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br /><br />I could be wrong but my recollection is she never made public the "announcement" she was pregnant. As I recall the headline at ADN was "Alaskans stunned as Palin gives birth" or something to that effect. Which would lead me to believe there was never any formal announcement. I certainly had never heard of it before that headline (nor had anyone I know) and was "stunned" also.<br /><br />Therein lies what helped this deception work though. I first met SP in '92 and have disliked her ever since. I always knew she was a fraud and was absolutely amazed that this dimwit could became Gubnah. When I saw that headline I looked at my wife and said "Palin gave birth? I didn't even know she was pregnant." My wife who works in city government and also knows her responded by saying "I didn't either.. obviously no one did"<br /><br />All sorts of questions went thru my mind at the time that I asked my wife. How could no one know? Why wouldn't she have told anyone etc.. My wife of course had no answers, she just shook her head. <br /><br />So even knowing Palin was a liar and a fraud, it NEVER crossed my mind at that time that she would have faked the whole thing. I just figured she was a very strange woman to start with so I shouldn't be suprised by some odd behaviour and that she must have had her reasons. I'm pretty sure that's how everyone up here reacted. So no one questioned it at the timeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-47053610925638226002009-10-14T21:00:31.284+02:002009-10-14T21:00:31.284+02:00CNN wants to know if she has hair? No wonder they...CNN wants to know if she has hair? No wonder they never get anywhere.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-39585515814255535242009-10-14T20:57:35.389+02:002009-10-14T20:57:35.389+02:00anon@20:48 .. "only her hair dresser knows fo...anon@20:48 .. "only her hair dresser knows for sure" -- old Clairol adAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com