tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post7214088561016777542..comments2023-10-24T10:23:42.618+02:00Comments on palingates: Andrew Sullivan takes the Trig Truther argument mainstream!reginahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04311352941909440862noreply@blogger.comBlogger170125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-77840894590651467782009-11-24T21:34:05.093+01:002009-11-24T21:34:05.093+01:00Archivist: It's okay that they are not wearing...Archivist: It's okay that they are not wearing seatbelts and Trig is not in a carseat because THE BUS IS NOT MOVING. We think it is moving only because we see the scenery moving past the window, in a fake simulation.<br /><br />OR<br /><br />The bus is moving and yes she shows reckless behavior via no seat belts or car seat.<br /><br />It's just another version of the wild ride OR the hoax. The compulsion to repeat, as the shrinks say.Amy1https://www.blogger.com/profile/05087449911330111345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-89716261753912713422009-11-24T15:52:46.396+01:002009-11-24T15:52:46.396+01:00Thanks Kathleen. I thought of emailing AS myself, ...Thanks Kathleen. I thought of emailing AS myself, but this way maybe we'll hear back. <br /><br />I posted about this earlier (Anon 5:07 and 20:02) and I can't see why my comments would not have passed moderation over there, since what I wrote has basically been said by others. <br /><br />I'm also curious about how many comments Patrick gathered just from PG. I'll bet it's a good share of the 26 that were published.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-54192324552620571372009-11-24T13:40:12.995+01:002009-11-24T13:40:12.995+01:00anon @ 8.10
Thanks for your observation
I'll...anon @ 8.10<br /><br />Thanks for your observation<br /><br />I'll ask P to write later to Andrew Sullivan about the comments at The Times. It is curious that no more comments have appeared despite the fact that people are still writing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-1358209003107030232009-11-24T09:39:32.578+01:002009-11-24T09:39:32.578+01:00I was just watching video on Gryphen's site of...I was just watching video on Gryphen's site of an interview that Palin; Trig is on her lap bouncing around, then at one point she puts him on the seat next to her ... <br /><br />WHY IS THAT CHILD NOT IN A CAR SEAT??? Even if the rules are different on buses, she should WANT him securely in a proper car seat!!!! <br /><br />More Neglect?? <br /><br />AND .. this isn't the first time; she was cautionned once in Alaska about riding around with him on her lap in a car. <br /><br />Nobody else mentionned this, but it's a really big deal!!! <br /><br />http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/8/84542/02720Archivisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06829798584006374181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-87541492765483891302009-11-24T08:10:05.517+01:002009-11-24T08:10:05.517+01:00ella --
I realize that comments are not monitored...ella --<br /><br />I realize that comments are not monitored and released one by one, but it's been over 24 hrs since I sent my first one, and around 12 hrs for the second one. Other posts have later time stamps than mine, and again, STILL ONLY 26 COMMENTS for this article?? If that's really the case, then we are just talking to ourselves here. (It's Tues morn and this was a Sunday column.) <br /><br />And why are there not more posts from Sarah's supporters? It almost looks like someone at the paper would like to give the impression that only a handful of "nutjobs" out there (us) are even interested in discussing this topic. I wonder if Andrew S. is privy to all the comments submitted to the paper. I find the whole thing very odd.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-49693430261179178592009-11-24T06:28:19.068+01:002009-11-24T06:28:19.068+01:00If a person ran for office on their military servi...If a person ran for office on their military service but they were not in the military (lack of vetting, forged record & cover up caused glitch)that would be fraud. It would not necessarily mean no fraud investigation because everyone believes the hype. One good witness or a handful could get things started. A non medical or a medical person can report a crime. It is not about telling what you know to reporters or blogs. You can announce something is in the works without violating HIPPA or anything else. Media or blog can help and have the exclusive to story. Witnesses need protection and support. Some want the public to know there is an investigation b/c it is less likely they would be harmed if it is known. <br /><br />An attorney spoke out today about Brad Hanson. Levi has put himself at the forefront. There can be more. If Dr. Johnson is brought up to investigators she will do time for the Palins or make a deal?<br /><br />If there is shady adoption or church hospital involvement it could get very complex. <br /><br />Keep the focus going and more will come out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-33176442102066711902009-11-24T03:46:37.618+01:002009-11-24T03:46:37.618+01:00OK, lets cover the HIPAA stuff again..... For thos...OK, lets cover the HIPAA stuff again..... For those of you that want the medical people to "just spill it", I'd like to see you risk significant fines and jail time to do that. Its every patient's right as a citizen (even Sarah) and you should consider yourself lucky that your sensitive medical information has these protections. <br /><br />Ironically, the stimulus bill signed earlier this year includes STRONGER protections and fines/jail time for INDIVIDUALS that ultimately help SP. <br /><br />Protected health information can only be disclosed with the patient's authorization (unless part of typical billing & operations or if a criminal/public health/security concern that mandates disclosure TO AUTHORITIES (not publically).<br /><br />Let's face it, as much as SP as Prez would be a national disaster I don't think that flies as reason for disclosure of the medical information. That's our wishful thinking.<br /><br />However, having said all that --the remarks here about disclosure for a FRAUD investigation (read criminal) could work. For example, if she did not deliver Trig or legally adopt him and then claiming him on her health insurance...... <br /> <br />JulaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-79383866872637622132009-11-24T03:45:21.561+01:002009-11-24T03:45:21.561+01:0002:27
She has no business on a military base wher...02:27<br /><br />She has no business on a military base where her entourage insults the Commander in Chief. She is asking for profiling and it is all trouble and she will increase threats again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-36698620778541864732009-11-24T03:26:04.547+01:002009-11-24T03:26:04.547+01:00I just looked at the Times blog and the comments a...I just looked at the Times blog and the comments are excellent. Very clear, well-stated and persuasive. Good job to all! And thanks to everyone for continuing to put the pieces together -- the quote "I've never had problems with my other pregnancies, so I was shocked" certainly does not mesh very well with the new, sad tale of two miscarriages, as anyone in their right mind would be able to see. But all of Sarah's strange behavior starts to make a lot more sense if we are talking about one or more abortions. Yes, a lot more sense. Psychological projection is so fascinating, albeit so pathological.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-85281342366996099732009-11-24T02:27:10.617+01:002009-11-24T02:27:10.617+01:00Basheert and Mel;
There are situations in which HI...Basheert and Mel;<br />There are situations in which HIPPA can be bypassed. I posted them a few times on a few blogs. I think this situation would qualify for a HIPPA bypass for one or more of the allowances.<br /><br />A covered entity is permitted, but not required, to<br />use and disclose protected health information, without an individual’s authorization,<br />for the following purposes or situations: (1) To the Individual (unless required for<br />access or accounting of disclosures); (2) Treatment, Payment, and Health Care<br />Operations; (3) Opportunity to Agree or Object; (4) Incident to an otherwise<br />permitted use and disclosure; (5) Public Interest and Benefit Activities; and<br /> Covered entities may rely on professional ethics and best judgments in<br />deciding which of these permissive uses and disclosures to make.<br />5) Public Interest and Benefit Activities. The Privacy Rule permits use and<br />disclosure of protected health information, without an individual’s authorization or<br />permission, for 12 national priority purposes. These disclosures are permitted,<br />although not required, by the Rule in recognition of the important uses made of health<br />information outside of the health care context. Specific conditions or limitations<br />apply to each public interest purpose, striking the balance between the individual<br />privacy interest and the public interest need for this information.<br />Required by Law. Covered entities may use and disclose protected health<br />information without individual authorization as required by law health<br />information to: (1) public health authorities authorized by law to collect or<br />receive such information for preventing or controlling disease, injury, or<br />disability and to public health or other government authorities authorized to<br />receive reports of child abuse and neglect; <br />Serious Threat to Health or Safety. Covered entities may disclose protected<br />health information that they believe is necessary to prevent or lessen a serious<br />and imminent threat to a person or the public, when such disclosure is made<br />to someone they believe can prevent or lessen the threat (including the target<br />of the threat). Covered entities may also disclose to law enforcement if the<br />information is needed to identify or apprehend an escapee or violent<br />criminal.40<br />Essential Government Functions. An authorization is not required to use or<br />disclose protected health information for certain essential government<br />functions. Such functions include: assuring proper execution of a military<br />mission, conducting intelligence and national security activities that are<br />authorized by law, providing protective services to the President, making<br />medical suitability determinations for U.S. State Department employees,<br />protecting the health and safety of inmates or employees in a correctional<br />institution, and determining eligibility for or conducting enrollment in certain<br />government benefit programs.<br /><br />covered entity may use or disclose, without an individual’s authorization,<br />the psychotherapy notes, for its own training, and to defend itself in legal<br />proceedings brought by the individual, for HHS to investigate or determine<br />the covered entity’s compliance with the Privacy Rules, to avert a serious and<br />imminent threat to public health or safety, to a health oversight agency for<br />lawful oversight of the originator of the psychotherapy notes, for the lawful<br />activities of a coroner or medical examiner or as required by law.<br /><br />Sarah's situation would fit in a few of these instances I'd think. <br />If Trig or any part of his healthcare was/is paid for by a government program, it could be investigated.<br />It can be argued she is a threat to the country and the president with the hate she incites. That's a national security threat that some clever lawyer could do something with . Her psych records should be disclosed as a national security concern. <br />I think with enough time, money and interest a good lawyer could make A hipaa bypass of her reocrds happen.comeonpeoplehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14664623437721571000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-89075648876073963682009-11-24T00:25:06.655+01:002009-11-24T00:25:06.655+01:00I find it incredibly suspicious that her 5 week pr...I find it incredibly suspicious that her 5 week preemie Down's Syndrome hole in the heart baby was allowed to go straight home. And that he weighed 6 pounds 7 oz or whatever it was. Down's Syndrome babies have a lower than average birth weight, so coupled with being 5 weeks preemie he is quite big.<br />Anyway a friend of mine had a 8 weeks preemie baby who is otherwise perfectly healthy, and weighs over 4 pounds, and he still has to stay in NICU for 8 weeks until he is full term size. He is on oxygen and has to wear tin foil on his little head(no he is not a crazy conspiracist!). He also has UV sessions where he wears these little special goggles. I don't see how Sarah managed to take a healthy looking Trig home the same day with all these problems. Wouldn't her governor's health insurance cover a longer stay? Don't healthy 40 week babies still get 3 days in hospital? Anyway I found a message board of mother's talking about their(non-Down's non-hole in the heart) preemie babies and NICU:<br />http://www.shareyourstory.org/webx/.ef4dbfe<br /><br />Mothers of preemie babies, speak up! Was anyone allowed to leave the hospital the same day??<br /><br />Another interesting preemie article:<br />http://kidshealth.org/parent/pregnancy_newborn/medical_care/preemie_home.html#<br /><br />Interesting that preemie babies can't go home until they can feed on their own without needing tube feeding. Feeding is a known issue for Down's syndrome babies! Are we expected to believe 5 week preemie Trig just latched on immediately, wow Sarah really is Wonder Mom!<br />http://breastfeeding.about.com/od/babyhealthissues/a/downsyndrome.htm<br /><br />A blog by a mother of a new baby with Down's Syndrome. Her baby spent 4 months in NICU. Not sure if she was premature or not. Maybe someone should email the blog about Sarah's amazing experience with a Down's baby, flying 8 months pregnant with amniotic fluid leaking, giving birth to a 5 week preemie with Down's and heart problems and going home the same day!<br /><br />http://downsyndromenewmama.blogspot.com/search/label/NICUAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-88360079286317984532009-11-23T23:49:21.351+01:002009-11-23T23:49:21.351+01:00Never will anyone sue Sarah. She is untouchable.
...Never will anyone sue Sarah. She is untouchable.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.themudflats.net/2009/11/23/voices-from-the-flats-palin-critics-attorney-on-being-named-in-going-rogue/" rel="nofollow">Whiners.</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-5983107161480728872009-11-23T22:54:20.879+01:002009-11-23T22:54:20.879+01:00Scarah can give DNA from something she touches.
...Scarah can give DNA from something she touches. <br /><br />Yes, you can indict a ham sandwich. A dedicated attorney versed in medicine would find a way to do what is necessary.<br /><br />Our prisons are filled for life with people who were prosecuted on witnesses and little else. <br /><br />It takes someone knowledgeable to really care about the fraud committed. <br /><br />They see the crime, how to collect witnesses and evidence? <br /> <br />CBJ is also someone who could be indicted. The Pat at ADN. <br /><br />Perhaps start with AMA, medical boards. Public safety. Child abuse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-89855288367408894572009-11-23T22:23:26.397+01:002009-11-23T22:23:26.397+01:00Can't HIPPA be breached if there's clear e...Can't HIPPA be breached if there's clear evidence of fraud? It seems to me that someone on the medical side with eye-witness or other evidence of SP's deception could talk to a lawyer or the state medical board. First describe the situation, not the people involved. Seek advice. If there's enough cause for suspicion, the case for investigating files could be made legally...?melhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17201268501884238263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-13048597833066356602009-11-23T21:51:10.136+01:002009-11-23T21:51:10.136+01:00It can't be that hard to get DNA if you are o...It can't be that hard to get DNA if you are on a SP team and close to Trig. What happened to journalists who aren't afraid of infiltrating? Once a hoax is established it is a new game.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-25387338457982536822009-11-23T21:38:36.693+01:002009-11-23T21:38:36.693+01:00ella: you are not OT at all; in fact, you are rig...ella: you are not OT at all; in fact, you are right on.<br /><br />So many great posts this morning. Several are about someone with HIPAA-protected info perhaps going public: someone like Dar (the former NICU nurse, undoubtedly well-connected with that community), who died in her house-fire, which was said to have started from a cigarette, in a state where no-burn cigarettes are the law, and in any case it is not clear Dar even smoked. Hmmmmm?<br /><br />The irony of the arson of the church records room: it doesn't matter whether Trig was adopted! As someone already said, above, what matters is the SP was not pregnant with him.<br /><br />Haven't we all wondered what set of events initiated the hoax idea in SP's wacky brain? That, too, doesn't matter. Interesting, for sure. It will evenually come out, for sure. But all that matters is that SP was not pregnant with Trig, easily confirmable by the photos and by any future DNA test. Undoubtedly, some decent reporter will put together the DNA samples of SP and Trig and do an informal test for $100 and publish it. Or at least I hope there is that much initiative left among our reporters du jour.Amy1https://www.blogger.com/profile/05087449911330111345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-66996528050169398952009-11-23T21:21:21.453+01:002009-11-23T21:21:21.453+01:00This is off topic, but it seems to me that McCain ...This is off topic, but it seems to me that McCain campaign reps broke the law by seizing/scrubbing the Johnstons' computer files--and even, as I recall, going so far as to remove photos from their refrigerator door. If this was not illegal, it was at least an invasion of privacy. Does anyone know whether the Johnstons/Rex Butler have taken action such as filing a complaint or a lawsuit? (Possibly I've missed previous threads on Palingates pertaining to this matter.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-92119054484639535672009-11-23T21:17:00.431+01:002009-11-23T21:17:00.431+01:00I of course don't have the book in front of me...I of course don't have the book in front of me (and I have no intention of buying it), but just from excerpts I've seen here I'm not clear about something: When does she she talk about THINKING about having an abortion--was that when she had just DISCOVERED that she was pregnant (I think it was in New Orleans), or was it AFTER she found out (through amnio) that she would be having a DS baby? Because if she had no idea she was having a DS baby, and she is supposedly so rabidly PRO-LIFE, whatever reason could she have for even considering aborting it? Makes no sense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-51847181978557836072009-11-23T21:07:03.668+01:002009-11-23T21:07:03.668+01:00New post up!New post up!Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06342444888520052108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-70897481252705003022009-11-23T21:01:11.451+01:002009-11-23T21:01:11.451+01:00"...doesn't anyone know someone at ADN or..."...doesn't anyone know someone at ADN or the local TV station that scrubbed all the photos and video?"<br /><br />Not likely anyone would volunteer or answer without disposition or legal inquiry. How to take it to that level?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-27062740603202142062009-11-23T20:49:55.807+01:002009-11-23T20:49:55.807+01:00I think Trig looks like Levi, but that was in the ...I think Trig looks like Levi, but that was in the only full on face shot I saw, and I immediately saw Levi in my mind. I was NOT trying to figure out if he looks like anyone, but that is what came to me.<br /><br />and except for coloring it can be difficult to see who he looks like with his DS features because they are pronounced.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-37421041565729749882009-11-23T20:44:12.208+01:002009-11-23T20:44:12.208+01:00Oh midnight cajun, you are so cute. Miss Wasilla d...Oh midnight cajun, you are so cute. Miss Wasilla doesn't lie. She had no problems with the pregnancies, obviously she wasn't talking about the pregnancies that didn't end up working out.<br /><br />sheesh<br /><br />(good catch!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-44287689044181119672009-11-23T20:41:50.015+01:002009-11-23T20:41:50.015+01:00doesn't anyone know someone at ADN or the loca...doesn't anyone know someone at ADN or the local TV station that scrubbed all the photos and video?<br /><br />People had to do this manually. Someone or a few people know about this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-34359941874570634392009-11-23T20:41:34.334+01:002009-11-23T20:41:34.334+01:00anon@20:02 - my comment took over 3 hours (to appe...anon@20:02 - my comment took over 3 hours (to appear) last evening. I suspect that yours will appear (and more comments will be released at same time). Like most sites that monitor the comments, they do not sit there and monitor each one as they come in.ellanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-91726209575491087222009-11-23T20:40:48.270+01:002009-11-23T20:40:48.270+01:00Leadfoot: interesting point, well made. It was the...Leadfoot: interesting point, well made. It was the best plan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com