tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post9185342269269658985..comments2023-10-24T10:23:42.618+02:00Comments on palingates: Just for funreginahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04311352941909440862noreply@blogger.comBlogger61125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-67132358261980703272009-10-19T22:28:47.074+02:002009-10-19T22:28:47.074+02:00Desparate housewives across the nation would love ...Desparate housewives across the nation would love a how to manual for women who want to <a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_t2gcapXTnuM/StOjY6OtJdI/AAAAAAAAB1E/lSEZmh74rXE/s1600-h/31+weekspng.PNG" rel="nofollow">fake a climax or a pregnancy.</a> <br /><br />Bree Palin's <a href="http://breepalin.blogspot.com/2009/10/sarah-palins-special-delivery-or-who.html" rel="nofollow">Balloon Belly Hoax</a> like never before.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-18420245533400696812009-10-19T11:26:28.133+02:002009-10-19T11:26:28.133+02:00In the previous "Open Thread Cat" postin...In the previous "Open Thread Cat" posting I wrote this idea and now I see others are mentioning similiar in conjunction with a Google ad: <br />"Back to Sarah: I would like to see a Top Twenty or more list suggestions that are very serious- not just our usual witty comments.<br />The post topic/question poll would be the compelling important reasons why babygate (and its solution) should matter to the average American.<br /><br />This would be the top reasons you would tell the Average Joe or Jane why it should concern them that Sarah Palin has the skeleton in her closet of faking her very young daughter's pregnancy as her own. How her bragging/lying in a political divisive way, dragging infant Trig around the country during a grueling Presidential campaign should matter to all Americans even if she never ran for office again. <br /><br />I start with-<br />Babygate matters because: Gov.Sarah Palin lied in a politically and ethically relevant manner and then had help from powerful political operatives to cover-up this family fraud in lying about who really gave birth to Trig."<br /><br />16 October 2009 06:58<br /><br />Just like the "aha" moment unbelievers have when first shown a particular SP fake preggers photo sequence, Wild Ride story or other presented evidence...I think we should back up with WHY any concerned citizen should care about her personal scam with its political implications. <br /><br />So, Google ad developers-why, why oh why? I should be writing legislators with my concerns about health care or more fall chores as winter arrives here in AK. Nothing will disway my interest in the Babygate solution-but what about Joe Friday, Joe Slow, Jane the Plumber etc? MSM will follow the interest peaked. <br /><br />Make sure the Google ad statement/link doesn't come off as a hoax in itself or low-class Tabloid, make it compelling, factual. Appealing to male/female and cross economic, political demographics. Even Palinbots would want to click on it and we can then say "Gotcha" even if they try to spin it into Saint Sarah. More like follow the money trail to Gov Quitter.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14107677942291785809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-64362990568652155952009-10-18T20:44:07.766+02:002009-10-18T20:44:07.766+02:00Free advertising is available: The hoax in Colorad...Free advertising is available: The hoax in Colorado involving the Balloon boy and his family is the spring board needed. I've had many replys to my local papers online page in Southern CA. about another hoax dumped on the American people and the battle being waged in Alaska to get the news to the public. I forwarded the people to BreePalin, Palingates and a couple others. Hit the major news outlets!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-43430587666925163062009-10-18T09:45:30.328+02:002009-10-18T09:45:30.328+02:00Contrary to sarah's gushing, thatcher the slas...Contrary to sarah's gushing, thatcher the slasher was not beloved by all. she cut government aid & programs. please add more info, regina. at present sarah & maggie are on equal footing; maggie is not in good mental health. for fun, try to find the british version of "billy elliot" song "merry christmas maggie thatcher."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-49263217033867075472009-10-18T06:31:33.935+02:002009-10-18T06:31:33.935+02:00That Facebook post by "Sarah" is just PA...That Facebook post by "Sarah" is just PAINFUL! It's got to be hard for those folks who thought the Palin gravy train was really gonna keep on rolling for a good long time, and instead there is still no sign that Palin is up to any kind of public speaking engagement. <br /><br />What happens when the book gets down to $5 a copy before it's even released? Anybody seen a notice of the first bookstore where she'll be doing a signing or a reading? Yeah, didn't think so...ArmchairJanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06227611891127796064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-88673685879647363472009-10-18T06:20:01.293+02:002009-10-18T06:20:01.293+02:00Bell, that Facebook ad idea is another one I like....Bell, that Facebook ad idea is another one I like. <br /><br />I went to the article and you could see from comments about the article that the usual highly defensive people were out on the thread to defend Palin and/or demean Obama. Yet as usual it was the stuff the trolls say that echoes Faux News: buzzwords without specifics, ignoring the real message and trying to distract to side issues, etc.<br /><br />I am sure we would get the same comments, but it does show that people read and reacted to either the ad, or the article about the ad.<br /><br />Finding a sponsoring group that would help us get our message out is another option. The information about setting up a non-profit talks about finding a sponsoring group as one option.<br /><br />I think it is just good that people are throwing out some ideas and talking about some new forms of action that we might take. <br /><br />Lynn, I agree about not wasting time on the trolls. Not like I never respond to them, because at times I do! But as far as the trolls go, it's like whatever that saying is about not wrestling with a pig, getting dirt all over you and the pig likes it. <br /><br />The most recent "new" troll here and at IM has wasted people's time by the troll tactic of starting out "reasonable" and "civil". Some people feel like those are the people we should talk to. Yes, if they are sincere. But very early on, newest troll showed that he was not really reasonable, but instead using troll rope-a-dope, where some of the nice people think that because the troll is not cussing and insulting that he's somehow not a troll. As usual, our newest troll degenerated into the usual cretin once a few people took him seriously. But I think most people have gotten the idea about him now.ArmchairJanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06227611891127796064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-28899449914989404772009-10-18T06:19:47.582+02:002009-10-18T06:19:47.582+02:00There's goes that "Sarah," again usi...There's goes that "Sarah," again using political allusions/memes about twenty years behind the times.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-51181311227937318842009-10-18T06:14:11.995+02:002009-10-18T06:14:11.995+02:00This less than erudite moron has the nerve to genu...This less than erudite moron has the nerve to genuflect and suggest any sort of camaraderie as if SP and Margaret Thatcher have anything in common aside from being carbon based units?<br /><br />As if they were personal friends or acquaintances?<br /><br />This was posted on Sarah Palin’s facebook- and is she kidding?<br /><br />Why didn’t she call Margaret when she first discovered her clitoris or had her first period?<br /><br />So now she has a staff researcher going after birthdays of all legendary women in history?<br /><br />Why not start with Joan, Bovary, Helen, Jane (Hanoi), Mata Hari, Cleo-, Rose (Tokyo), Eva (Braun), and keep going from there- extend all your heart felt wishes to them as well as the clear fellowship and journeys you have shared with said group.<br /><br />Birthday Wishes to Margaret Thatcher<br /><br />Tuesday, October 13, 2009 at 12:59pm<br />I would like to extend warm birthday wishes to Margaret Thatcher today. Baroness Thatcher continues to remain a role model to many people, particularly women, around the world. Her career is a collection of “firsts.” She was the youngest female Conservative Party member to stand for election in history, she was the first woman to hold the title Leader of the Opposition, and she was the first woman to become Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.<br /><br />As Prime Minister, she took an active role in defending economic freedom and democratic ideals. Her push to privatize British industry and lower tax rates led to a substantial economic expansion in the United Kingdom. She was just as influential in foreign policy. Along with President Ronald Reagan and Pope John Paul II, Prime Minister Thatcher recognized the evil of Communism and worked tirelessly to erode the power and influence of the Soviet Union.<br /><br />Her life and career serve as a blueprint for overcoming the odds and challenging the “status quo.” She started life as a grocer’s daughter from Grantham and rose to become Prime Minister – all by her own merit and hard work. I cherish the accomplishments of Margaret Thatcher and will always count her as one of my role models.<br /><br />- Sarah PalinTeutonic13https://www.blogger.com/profile/15254798347906246059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-86394087320750417562009-10-18T05:42:38.638+02:002009-10-18T05:42:38.638+02:00How about a facebook add?
http://www.facebook.com...How about a facebook add?<br /><br />http://www.facebook.com/advertising/?src=fbj9wes_benhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09296494671078671617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-55843612623107805122009-10-18T05:30:26.498+02:002009-10-18T05:30:26.498+02:00It's a shame for one person to have to take th...It's a shame for one person to have to take the brunt of the viscious attacks. In the movies when someone is outed then everyone begins standing up and saying "I am (whoever is being attacked) "I am Gryphen" campaign! I love what MoveOn does. The organization sure was attacked but I keep supporting them. General Betrayus was brilliant. <br /><br /> I agree we should ignore the trolls, even when they appear to be showing some degree of civility. It's baiting plain and simple. We should save our debating skills for open minded people instead of wasting our time with people like that guy--can't remember what his name was...Lynnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15085450208306244323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-69668425207342747562009-10-18T05:06:25.429+02:002009-10-18T05:06:25.429+02:00I hurried and didn't make a full sentence...ap...I hurried and didn't make a full sentence...apologies.Bell Pepperlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12570736243957913927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-8299231576386531302009-10-18T05:01:48.033+02:002009-10-18T05:01:48.033+02:00Here is an article about a group that bought Faceb...Here is an article about a group that bought Facebook ads to target Palin's lies about Death Panels:<br />http://tiny.cc/Tad1q <br /><br />"The ad reportedly directs people to a page on the Americans United for Change Web site with a submission form to send a letter to Palin." <br /><br />An ad targeting SP on Facebook that leads to a letter form that demands Palin quit putting her name out there as a viable candidate for 2012, making speeches and "writing" op-eds trying to influence national policy, until she provides incontrovertible proof that the medical letter is not fraudulent and that Trig was birthed by her and that Bristol was not pregnant in the time she missed school for 5 months.Bell Pepperlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12570736243957913927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-61595519055507690822009-10-18T04:39:04.083+02:002009-10-18T04:39:04.083+02:00@anon 04:07,
My reasoning on the logic behind the ...@anon 04:07,<br />My reasoning on the logic behind the non-profit is so that people can donate money, knowing it will be use to further the goals of the non-profit. Then people can donate as they see fit, and they can remain anonymous. <br /><br />I am not saying that people somehow have a way to know who is donating to Gryphen or Celtic Diva. It's more that if we had a non-profit, then we can take out ads, run a web site, do whatever under the overall banner of the non-profit. <br /><br />For instance, the non-profit could be the official entity that buys the air time, pays for the google ads, or whatever needs to be done. <br /><br />The non-profit could also have its own website and/or blog that has the sort of "summary" of the information, as was discussed above in the suggestion for google ads, as far as the ad sending one page of data that lays out the hoax, and then links off of that to further blogs.<br /><br />The dirtballs who have went after Gryphen and managed to stop Audrey from putting up new posts were able to do so in large part because they searched for personal details about the blog authors revealed in their posts, used that to figure out who they were, and then harassed them. Similar creeps have also subjected Diva to nasty personal attacks. <br /><br />The non-profit could put up a sort of firewall between those who would like to support getting the info out about the hoax but don't want to be harassed by a-holes like those who went after Gryphen and Audrey. It will be a lot harder to make personal attacks at an organization than at specific individuals, which is what has been happening.<br /><br />The non-profit site could and should still direct people to other important sites like this one, IM, Bree's etc. But it could also post the basic summary information about the hoax without including the kind of detail that allowed the "outing" and harassment of bloggers in the past.ArmchairJanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06227611891127796064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-12860567681045797472009-10-18T04:14:31.544+02:002009-10-18T04:14:31.544+02:00Could we call it the Anti Sarah Pac.. :)Could we call it the Anti Sarah Pac.. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-86684543469791514282009-10-18T04:09:52.710+02:002009-10-18T04:09:52.710+02:00http://nonprofit.about.com/od/gettingstarted/tp/ti...http://nonprofit.about.com/od/gettingstarted/tp/tipsstartup.htmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-61847443868217302452009-10-18T04:07:00.370+02:002009-10-18T04:07:00.370+02:00I'm not sure the thinking on how donors would ...I'm not sure the thinking on how donors would somehow be "outed". No one knows who contributed to Gryphen or to Celtic Diva, those records are kept by PayPal. The only info that could be garnered is who set up the paypal account, not who donated to it. What am I missing hereAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-52645971764193810782009-10-18T03:51:57.433+02:002009-10-18T03:51:57.433+02:00I gave $50 to Celtic Diva for her drive to get rec...I gave $50 to Celtic Diva for her drive to get records released, and I will gladly donate the same for this. Palin and the people behind her must be stopped.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-24429410518567499692009-10-18T03:40:57.773+02:002009-10-18T03:40:57.773+02:00Thanks for explaining what he meant. What ignorant...Thanks for explaining what he meant. What ignorant bullies. They can't discuss or argue on the basis of ideas or knowledge so they intimidate people. Jessie is the same way on his postings here and at IM. I hope people stop responding to trolls. I think it's going to get worse. So we should all try.<br />Honestly if I knew for certain Sarah was done with politics, I really wouldn't care anymore. But I think she may at least do a primary so she can pad her pockets. I have no doubt Huckabee and Romney will get this information easily and bring it out if we can't. Romney has a lot of money-LBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-56866934465852429022009-10-18T03:08:59.729+02:002009-10-18T03:08:59.729+02:00Maybe one of the people who supports this cause kn...Maybe one of the people who supports this cause knows how to set up a nonprofit and would be willing to file the papers. <br /><br />Rachel Maddow recently interviewed a guy named Rick Berman who sets up all the nonprofits for things like "yes, DO eat mercury laden fish, it's good for you!". That guy is the front guy, and as he says, he doesn't have to disclose his donors, who want to have privacy. (There is a transcript of the show where it discusses how Berman uses his non-profits here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33209373/ns/msnbc_tv-rachel_maddow_show/)<br /><br />If we had our own non-profit, we could be just like those people that guy represents, except we really ARE grass roots, whereas the guy on Rachel's show represents people who are actually big business interests who want to hide that they are the ones putting out the info. <br /><br />Clearly Jesse is referring to the "out them and intimidate them" strategy. Forming an official nonprofit could help to stop Palin from putting that strategy into action. It could also generate news coverage, as I think it's not often you have people form educational non-profits to reveal such a scam as Palin has perpetrated.<br /><br />We could have a nonprofit educational foundation that educates people about the Palin's scam, as well as her Dominionist connections, which I think should be very much of interest to ALL Americans, as well as those people in other countries who worry about any possibility of America being ruled by a fundamentalist theocracy. If our activity is educational in nature, then it is different from a PAC.<br /><br />Somebody who is already outed or doesn't mind being known can have their name on the organization's registration. And then people can donate and maintain privacy. <br /><br />I can think of a lot of reasons why doing something like this would be good "for the cause". Powerful people are known to use non-profits because they meet their needs. Maybe we should take a lesson from that. Having an organization would allow donors to remain anonymous, and allow pooling of donation to buy ads in a variety of media. Perhaps to hire investigators if needed...<br /><br />Maybe somebody who is a regular to the blog knows something about nonprofits and could give an opinion.ArmchairJanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06227611891127796064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-53665041128629618202009-10-18T03:08:13.531+02:002009-10-18T03:08:13.531+02:00To Patrick and Co. - Sorry so many posts but I did...To Patrick and Co. - Sorry so many posts but I didn't get the full picture as I started reading comments from the bottom up - I think most everybody who visits our sites would give at least $5 or $10 - that is an amount that no one misses. Some would give more. We could have buttons on multiple websites and maybe all announce it together in posts on one certain day. That way anyone reading for a day on a weekend would encounter the campaign wherever they went - and certainly get the message. A unified call to action from multiple participating bloggers to raise funds for ongoing ads. We could also have 5 choices of ads and have people vote on their preferred approach -Top 3 get aired/published whatever. If Shannyn and AKM don't want to participate b/c of the babygate topic, they can still report it as news that it is happening.<br /><br />Just a few ideas. Cheers.Elenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09142842393660159618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-20400615082290811892009-10-18T02:40:44.968+02:002009-10-18T02:40:44.968+02:00Sorry the above was directed at Anon 1:46.Sorry the above was directed at Anon 1:46.Elenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09142842393660159618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-34764425424000230942009-10-18T02:39:21.660+02:002009-10-18T02:39:21.660+02:00Anon 1;18
You have a plan, you are showing leader...Anon 1;18<br /><br />You have a plan, you are showing leadership. Why not just go ahead and do it? set up a blog, put a donation button on it and link it here. <br /><br />However, I will say you will need to disclose your identity if you want to move into action, as you will be asking for funds for specifica purposes. <br /><br />But why not do it? If you are sincere I am sure you will see support.<br /><br />HA! WV is plesse - obviously for please.Elenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09142842393660159618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-46923225914371686262009-10-18T02:32:52.252+02:002009-10-18T02:32:52.252+02:00LB...
You asked what Jesse meant by saying that ...LB...<br /><br /> You asked what Jesse meant by saying that Sarah had a back up plan in place.<br /><br />I believe that the back up plan is using people like R.S.McCain and Dan Reihl to "out" or go after the bloggers who she can't. <br /><br />They have gotten to Gryphen..they really did a number on him (although he stuck to his guns) and they went after Audrey as well. Both were threatened and then attacked by these two bloggers. When they went after Gryphen they claimed to have gotten an "anonymous" tip on inside information. <br /><br />We have all seen the vindictive and retributive nature of Sarah Palin which is why I would warn people to use caution. She also has $$ behind her now (her own in addition to that of others), which I have no doubt that she would use to her advantage. <br /><br />I am not saying things should not be done in a proactive way, I am simply urging caution.EyeOnYouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08663121057208151750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-3759439306698340012009-10-18T01:46:38.171+02:002009-10-18T01:46:38.171+02:00I am the anon who suggested the print ad (we showe...I am the anon who suggested the print ad (we showed your ours, now show us yours), which must have been posted at the same time as LB's suggestion.<br /><br />My idea was to get it out there that she never offered to show any birth certificate info, but the folks who back her are the birthers (Palin fans are a subset of the birthers, as proven in polls). <br /><br />Maybe there should be two ads: one going to a faked pregnancy site, and one just about the birth certificates. To me, the birth certificate issue is very easy to understand. If the ad went to enough places and people started talking, Factcheck.org would have to then post something about how she has never shown the certificate, just like they did for Obama actually showing his.<br /><br />We could buy email lists and send emails about it to people as well:-) From a Republican source, of course. <br /><br />We have to keep it simple so that people get it right away, without reading a bunch of stuff, IMHO.<br /><br />Then there should be links to all of these sites -- the original bloggers. <br /><br />It would be good to have an anonymous donating situation, so that the evil Palin cult could not destroy innocent people expressing their freedom of speech rights. <br /><br />Freedom means freedom for her, and no one else. God save America and our freedoms by keeping her as far away from the White House as possible.<br /><br />Abstinence only, indeed- Abstain from running for office, Sarah. And then we will all leave you alone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56121788883344869.post-68138900271289599552009-10-18T01:12:11.381+02:002009-10-18T01:12:11.381+02:00Google ads: GREAT idea, and I would make a small d...Google ads: GREAT idea, and I would make a small donation, but if the ads are as cheap as they sound, a little would go a long way.<br /><br />SarahPac ads will always come up for me on IM, and I click so Gryphen gets the revenue :)<br /><br />I am thinking that for the same reason SarahPac ads come up for me when I go to IM, that "our" Sarah ad, should we choose to do one, would come up on all kinds of sites, including places like You Tube. <br /><br />It never ceases to amaze me when I am watching a You Tube video that really cuts Palin down to size, that right next to that will be an ad for SarahPac or some similar pro-Palin site.<br /><br />The more I think about the Google ad idea, the better I like it, because it uses browsing patterns to target the ads. At least that is how I understand it. So when people read Palin stuff, they will see our ad. <br /><br />Some people will never be convinced, but I have convinced several people by getting them to just take the few minutes to review some of the evidence. <br /><br />I have also found that for women who are of childbearing years, the birth story alone is enough to sway them. As a matter of fact, often if I mention the birth story, they think it is so far-fetched that it must be a rumor. "SHE really said THAT?!", is often the reaction when the person is then told that "the wild ride" is not just a "rumor", but that it is indeed what Palin said, and you can even hear the audio.<br /><br />One relative, a staunch Republican pro-lifer who grew up before Roe v. Wade, said after hearing the story, "sounds like she was trying to kill the baby". This person was a natural constituent of Palin's, but knowing about the wild ride was enough to turn her off of Palin for good. She is still hoping Huckabee can put up a good run in 2012, but as far as her supporting Palin, as they say on Saturday Night Live Weekend Update: NO WAY!ArmchairJanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06227611891127796064noreply@blogger.com