We have to thank our reader “Bell” for uncovering another highly interesting piece of information. As most of you know, the Israeli filmmaker Elan Frank had unique access to Sarah Palin at the beginning of April 2008, when she was supposedly highly pregnant with Trig. In this news article, it was mentioned that Elan Frank followed her around for three days at the beginning of April 2008. Elan Frank then later sold all the footage to Fox News.
From Sarah Palin’s schedule we can see that he filmed her on April 8, 2008 and April 9, 2008 . Previous to this we already had confirmation that the footage with the black jacket was definitely shot on April 8, 2008. If Elan Frank filmed her on a third day, although this is not mentioned in Sarah’s schedule, we can safely assume that this must have been either just before or after those days. In any case, about ten days later, on April 18, 2008, Trig was supposedly born and “presented to the world” as a premature down syndrome baby with a possible cardiac problem several hours later.
The new footage is a clip from an Israeli news program. You can find the clip posted online here.
However, this online clip is very unstable and doesn’t seem to play very well. Some people are lucky and it loads for them, but for me it didn’t. Fortunately, although I couldn’t view it online, I was able to download this clip. It was well worth it – see for yourself:
We took screenshots of the amazing sequence of the highly “pregnant” Sarah Palin standing up:
Is this a woman who will give birth to a baby which weighs 6 lbs. 2 oz. about ten days later?
After I viewed this footage, I AGAIN searched the internet for pictures and videos of highly pregnant women, just to get a comparison, and they just DID NOT match up, as expected. I know that we have many female readers here who have given birth before – what do you all think about it?
See also the comparison to the famous Gusty picture with Sarah’s prominent “pregnant” stomach dated to April 13, 2008 – taken just about four to five days later!
In addition, the “exchange” between Sarah and Todd in the video clip is quite interesting, especially in light of the “latest revelations”.Note that she is wearing her famous the blue jacket again – inside the house while she is sitting down and being filmed!
I would also like to draw your attention again to the other videos in which the footage of Sarah Palin shot by Elan Frank is mentioned. These two great clips were created by Ennealogic:
Also, we have more highly interesting footage of Sarah Palin which was shot by Elan Frank and which was included in the fourth part of the Fox News series “Sarah Palin – An American Woman”:
(Click on still pictures to enlarge)
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275 comments:
«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 275 of 275ProChoiceGrandma noted, Reesie at BreePalin’s found this jewel:
http://thepoliticalcarnival.blogspot.com/2009/10/team-sarah-plans-capitol-phone-blast-on.html
Another fine example of the idiots at TeamSarah, planning a “Phone Blast” for Monday, October 12, 2009 - to government offices that are CLOSED for Columbus Day!
Mrs. Tarquin Biscuitbarrel
Mr. B (normally not receptive to $P updates) thought that this anecdote was very, very telling. He's gone to the office, as many people in high-end Washington jobs do. Support staffers mostly have the day off, so the phones called by Palinbots must be ringing off the hook. And those people who went in to try to clear their desks on a "quiet" day must be going nuts!
Mr. B said he's glad that HIS office isn't a target...
Excellent point about heat and pregnancy. I was in metabolic overdrive from 7 months on. Had to sleep without clothes in the Pacific Northwest cold spring and late Fall (2 pregs). Light clothing all day. Wearing a jacket indoors? Inconceivable (no pun intended). I also was never ever without a water bottle for a drink. Wonder about Sarah?
And to the poster who asked what we will do with out lives once this is revealed? I will move on to the next cause I believe needs attention for the integrity of this country, for the future of my children whom I am raising to be critical thinkers.
C4P is a crazy train. Crazy 4 Palin.
AKM and SM could be 100% believers that SP was not PG. Huffington does not want to touch babygate and Sully has toned down. I understand they don't want to look looney. They will take up matters when there is concrete substance. If SP's docters go before a board, get called into a grand jury or some matter in the legal system that will be when those who are riding the fence will start to examine this.
The work on the blogs like Audrey's will endure. It is amazing what many have accomplished. It's time will come. SOON?
IMHO, I think the cps are going dark as a way to be more effective for their goddess. They may know she didn't give birth and they don't care. What they care about is promoting the image they have all invested in. They don't like babygate to go wild but they know a good controversy is good for sales and donations.
Love is in the air....yes?
wv: dotaliz
Sarah Palin: Total ditz?
I can understand why Shannyn & AKM are not willing to comment on Babygate. It would be redundant. When I want Babygate I go to Palingate.
There are enough "gates " to go around. It seems that everything about Buttercup is toxic. There is plenty of her to go around.
All of the bloggers have done an amazing job in exposing her for what she is. A FRAUD.
Interesting $P comment from the campaign trail:
NBC’s Brian Williams had asked Palin in an interview that aired Wednesday, “Did I hear you just agree to release your medical records?"
Palin replied: "The medical records. So be it. If that will allow some curiosity seekers, perhaps, to have one more thing that they can either check the box off that they can find something to criticize, perhaps, or find something to rest them assured over. Fine. I'm healthy, I'm happy, had five kids. That is going to be in the medical records. Never been seriously ill or hurt. You will see that in the medical records if they're released." curiosity seekers
anaon at 18:56
Dallas has several hospitals equipped to not only handle a high risk pregnancy and high risk neonate--these same hospitals handle celebs everyday, actors(many make or keep their homes here) pro-athletes, singers, musicians and their wives. There is NO excuse for not going to a hospital unless
A) she was not pregnant
B) she didn't want the high risk fetus to survive
while I think Sarah is beyond disgusting, the latter even shocks me.
If Shannyn has really turned Tim Lindell then that is huge, because he probably has all kinds of information that could sink SP for good.
I think he has been in the SP inner circle - don't forget he was the prime organizer of the begathon so he probably knows what has been going on with that money.
When she made the quit speech he was the first person out there spinning it as some kind of genius move and then all the other Palinbots jumped on board. He obviously knew about it in advance.
Then he went to Alaska and has apparently been in Fairbanks since. We know some of the babygate clues lead back to Fairbanks. Or maybe he was assigned as a handler for Track Palin or to sabotage Jay Ramras.
Gryphen did say here were meetings going on so I will be watching Shannyn closely for some info.
Okay, as for Tim aka VO, if he turned away from Sarah then why is he in Alaska? Sorry but I doubt very seriously that he turned away from Sarah. He was a hard core believer and he is the one who stated that she had "crossed the rubicon" and he was following her. RAM was of the same frame of mind.
Both said they would follow her even if she quit politics altogether because they liked what she stood for and they would always stand with her.
A commenter on Palin's medical records: "It's the cranial MRI that I want to see. A large white void!!"
EyeOnYou, maybe he was disilusioned when he saw the truth?
If he is a hard core believer I don't think he would be "paling around" with Shannyn.
anon @21.52
Shouldn't that be palin' around ;-)
VO may be desillusioned with $P, but he's TOO right wing to be trusted.
The Going Rouge Coloring Book
What has she EVER done for them? The reality of the situation is so acutely sad. Trig was her prop
It's FINE for Shannon and Mudflats to keep a hands off policy on babygate.
They have gotten TV appearances lately and more. They are legit Alaska blogs to the media. Good, because when the the Book o'Lies is out and babygate breaks, they will have the respect to go on the cable shows and discuss.
Let them be silent on this for now and gain legitimacy. there is SO MUCH else crooked about her, that they will be able to speak to because they didn't touch babygate until it broke.
Greta Van Susteren is in Alaska? Will she tell us why? Is there an announcement coming? BreePalin has Cindy Adams in the NY Post telling about "Stand Up for Our Nation."
Is this her next big gimmick and will she make an appearance and speak in person with her supporters there to hold her up? Will this be cloak and dagger Sarah Palin hiding behind the curtain while others make an announcement?
Anon@22:12 No its no ok for them to talk about it after it "Breaks" I'm sorry but all the MSM them included have ignored or censored babygate and once the bloggers who took the heat break the Story Shannyn and AKM go on MSNBC to talk about b/c they have respect now? I don't think so. The people who worked hard and researched the story can talk about it.
It will be too late for AKM and Shannyn to talk about it. JMO
Interesting coincidence or what? I would say it was a very strategic decision on Christie's part. Maybe a little birdie named Maria helped with that decision?
NJ Governor's spokeswoman:
“No,” is all Christie spokeswoman Maria Comella would say when asked if they had invited Palin. Pressed as to why, Comella pointed to comments Christie had made earlier this summer about wanting to keep the race focused on New Jersey issues and especially the tenure of Gov. Jon Corzine.
McCain/Palin campaign spokeswoman:
Spokeswoman Maria Comella declined to answer specific questions about the expenditures, including whether it was necessary to spend that much and whether it amounted to one early investment in Palin or if shopping for the vice presidential nominee was ongoing.
“The campaign does not comment on strategic decisions regarding how financial resources available to the campaign are spent," she said.
Greta's plane stopped in Anchorage (refuel?). She is going to Korea to do some shows.
Anon @ 22:20, now THAT is an exceedingly brilliant find! I'll bet Maria Comella will have lots to say after Sarah's book comes out, but Maria conveys much already with just one little word... "No".
Small world, isn't it, Sarah?
Anon @ 22:20, wish you would use a name so I could give a h/t for this one!
In THIS episode of "I Love Lucy", Lucille Ball was really pregnant with Desi Arnaz Jr. At 4:45, of course she was working it for maximum laughs, but she has the unmistakable HEFT of a woman carrying an actual baby, trying to get out of a chair.
http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu287/
hannah-hohulin/shapeshifterpix.jpg
perhaps it is just me, but I have never seen too much discussion about this pic on the left here. obvs it is the same day as the gusty pics, to me at least. when I realised that the lapel pin, cuff's, bangs, were the same I began to wonder.
these 2 locations are the only ones in which a sitting governor who had only recently announced a shocking, stunning pregnancy...appeared remotely pregnant. and she was fresh off the, I am woman, here me roar, watch me "carry" a baby and govern my state mea culpa. SO it doesn't make sense that she would have hid behind that podium the whole time. but even if she had, she must have had to walk TO the podium and then walk AWAY FROM the podium, correct? so (at that time) a mega-popular public figure, "eight months" pregnant no less...yet nobody in the crowd snaps a cell phone pix of the "Hot gov" walking to or from the podium?
I don't buy it.......am wondering if cell phones pix/digital cameras were "scrubbed" before attendees left. we know it's not improbably that something so strong armed could occur -- look at all the myspace accts and the pix scrubbed from the governor web site.
yuck I just looked at my link -- when I saved it, the writing was crisp and clear! It's so blurry and hard to read now. Sorry...windows photo album must have saved it in some way that messed it up.
There is another aspect to the CBJ thing that has always disturbed me. She's just a General Practitioner.
Fine for 'normal' babies who have not been diagnosed with a potentially life threatening disability, entirely inappropriate for a Down Syndrome birth. (DS kids are often born with heart defects, among other things.)
Under standard medical procedure, with a diagnosis like this, a RESPONSIBLE GP would immediately refer Palin to an OB/GYN specialist. Furthermore, medical protocol would INSIST upon an attending Pediatrician at the birth, to deal separately with the baby and supercheck vital signs, etc. Not to mention a PREMATURE BIRTH following water breaking.
So, when this story broke, I thought, well, it's Alaska, maybe there were no OB/GYNs within spitting distance. . .nope. Plenty of 'em in and around Wasilla.
So much about this stinks. . it almost stinks MORE if you believe Palin really was pregnant. That doctor should be brought up before the board. . .either for lying or medical malpractice.
BTW, had four kids myself; one was seriously disabled at birth (fine now). I know A LOT about this topic.
Anon @ 22:46, I have never seen that picture on the left! Where did it come from? Can you identify it's source?
How hard do you have to tap your belly to reproduce the volume of the rapid tapping Paling makes on hers?
Is it about the same force used to make a newborn burp?
How many pregnant women would be willing to try replicate that sound?
Listen to it again and again please.
wv: flegrate
The photo was taken on the 10th April. Here she is earlier in the day addressing new Americorps trainees on the State Capitol stairs.
http://www.palindeception.com/calendar/days/041008.html
PCG -- I got it from one of the photo services...zimeo or somethign I think. I saved every single pix of SP I could find from the time she was allegedly preggo -- I have been trying to get together a photo essay to send to matt taibbi from rolling stone but it has not been an easy task for me as I am not very ummm gifted lets say, with the written word! I too was surprised when I saw that picture! I saw the tell tale swell of belly, noted the black jacket, lapels, pin...and I thought I will be damned if this is not the same exact day, she just took her hair down for the Gusty pics. I will try to locate the link. would you like me to load up the original picture? it's much clearer than my crappy collage turned out, lol
22:46
Ive seen that pic on the left before.
Around the time the 'hunchback' photo from Dennis Zaki page showed up.
In Zaki pic, she was all loaded up with 'garment' protrusions beneath that awful black suit she wore all the time.
kathleen those are different shoes are they not? plus you can clearly see the swell of belly before the podium starts, but can not see it in the americorp pics. is it your suggestion that she...what exactly? put on the prosthetic just for the speech? that the angle just makes the podium pix look different?
I see a giant swell of belly that I have only ever seen on the gusty pics. bangs seem identical to me too. i am not sure what i think.
kath after looking at the pics more closely the shoes COULD be red, I had thought they were black.
ok sooo -- now I think the Gusty pics were taken that day...nobody could have every crease in their jacket or hair in their bangs exactly the same days apart, it just does not happen. due to the fact that the Gusty pics are surrounded with mystery and things that do not add up at all, it's easy as pie for me to believe they were taken any day -- especially a different one than SP or Gusty allege!
well crap. two differences in the gusty pics & americorp pics -- the neckline of her black top is higher in americorp pics and she is wearing different earrings (I think) than in the Gusty pics.
but that does NOT explain how she lacks the massive pregnancy protrusion in the americorp ceremony pics but has it in the podium pics...look at the way the jacket draws a shadow due to the large size of belly -- also does not explain why there are no photos of her out from behind the podium. yet more palin media where you add 2 and 2 and get everything EXCEPT 4.
the podium shoes are heeled boots and the interview shoes are flats. She has a necklace in one and no necklace in the other.
Her shoes changing makes sense to me; I used to live in a cold climate and we wore changed shoes all of the time.
Anon @ 22:46--
I believe the picture on the podium is from the "silver hand" signing ceremony April 10th, 2008. There are multiple pictures from this posted on the official governor's website. I even believe Audrey may have discussed them at some point. It's the same top & jacket as the April 13 picture, but here with a long skirt and heels, like in the pictures from the signing ceremony outside where we really only get back photos of Palin.
Phil Munger from Progressive Alaska has just commented on Bree Palin's blog:
"Philip Munger said...
I've emailed back and forth with both VO and Rebecca, and had a couple of long phone talks with Rebecca, have both their phone numbers - all from early last summer. But I'm not about to waste any time finding out what has happened over there. A sure sign that the tide continues to ebb at the Sea of Pee.
OCTOBER 12, 2009 5:45 PM"
I saw an interesting tv show on ID yesterday. The subject was women who fake pregnancy. They interviewed family and friends who truly thought their wife/friend was pregnant. They interviewed a husband who had totally been hoodwinked into thinking his wife was pregnant, when she was not. He even KNEW she had her tubes tied, yet he still was manipulated into believing the lie. These women had one thing in common - they were vey adept at lying and manipulating those around them. After watching this show, I can see just how easily friends, family, co-workers, and constituants could have bought into this bogus pregnancy of $P. Think about it...if someone told you they were pregnant, you'd believe them, because you'd have no reason NOT to believe them. The thought of a sitting governor lying about a pregnancy is just to incredible to believe. That's how she could get away with the lie. Women faking pregnancy's for whatever reason isn't really all that uncommon.
my head hurts, lol
I give up! There is a reason why Regina and Patrick and Kathleen have the mettle for this and I do not -- after comparing just these two pictures I feel that my head will explode. God bless you three for the patience you must have, you all should be canonized for the amount of work this must take.
I am still not in a firm camp regarding when either set of pics was taken. I still maintain that based upon the LARGE deep shaddow cast by SP's jacket behind the podium, it is very clear that she was at that time at least, sporting a hefty, curvy belly. but in the one "kind of" frontways pix of SP from the americorps, there is no shadow at all cast by the jacket, meaning that whatever protrusion is there (if any -- hidden behind that damned folder) it is much much smaller than the podium bump.
what time of day were the outdoor americorp photos taken vs the podium pics? something changed and I can't be convinced otherwise. I have two pics from this podium speech and the BIG swell of belly is clearly visible in both. yet if the same belly was there during the signing, there would have been so way she could hold that open folder as she did.
sometimes I hate this woman for occupying so much of my concentration, lol
wv=flngspoo = SP is flinging poo at us by continuing this hoax!
Anon@23:54,
Yep, there are people out there who will lie about anything. They count on the fact that most of us assume people are honest, and would not tell outrageous lies. My father is one of these people. He lied to me about something that I would never imagine someone having the gall to lie about! I believed him, and was later laughed at when I repeated the lie to someone who knew better. Never again believed a word out of his mouth.
Anon 23:59
You said
"I give up! There is a reason why Regina and Patrick and Kathleen have the mettle for this and I do not -- after comparing just these two pictures I feel that my head will explode. God bless you three for the patience you must have, you all should be canonized for the amount of work this must take."
LOL! :-)
Once you get used to the fact that many facts in the babygate saga are weird and confusing and that progress will always be slow, then it's fine and the joy will eventually kick in ;-)
anon at 23.24
I think that the boots are the same - you can't see the colour very well because the light and shade in the pictures are very different but the shape of the boot is the same as far as I can tell.
I cannot tell whether Palin shows at all in the Americorp photo because she either has her back to us or she is shielded by the huge great big folder that she is carrying.
There is a photo of Palin...somewhere....that shows her earlier in the day that the Gusty photo was shot (addressing the Legislature I think) and her hair is down and looks exactly as she wers it in the Gusty photos. I'll look for it.
Possibly there's a connection between Palin's new effort, Stand Up For Our Nation (reported by Cindy Adams today), and the silence from Mansour, Russo, and Liddell at C4P. Could these people be involved, behind the scenes, in the next chapter of the Sarah Palin farce?
The joy will kick in and straight back out again. This is tedious.....sometimes I hate it and take several days away from it all.
Thanks for your efforts anon 23.59 - we really do appreciate them.
anon23:59 -- those empathy bellies are adjustable and removable ... you betcha !!!
22:58, The same thing bothers me about the CBJ thing. A RESPONSIBLE GP would immediately refer Palin to an OB/GYN specialist. It's alleged Palin had amino test. I think most of what we get from the media is made up, who is in on that remains to be found out.
Is there anyone in Texas, Alaska or the United States that would know more about this? Where is the best place to go for an investigation into CBJ? To be taken serious, it is the wild ride story people want to believe. Sarah's version is the most popular as far as I can tell. We can all agree she was in Texas and she flew to Alaska. Other than that there are a million questions about safety, leaks and why no one noticed a Gusty-picture-like Palin on the plane. Her father seemed to believe she was leaking. If that was my loved one and I believed her I would want to know why she was put in danger. I'd want an incompetent doctor not to be able to endanger other women or babies.
Someone in the United States needs to think a little more about the well being of expectant mothers in flight or our politicians medical care. If the people of a state are paying for the medical care of an elected politician do they want incompetent doctors? NO.
What is it that prevents CBJ from being brought before a board in Alaska? Since this also involves Texas and crossing state lines why would it be restricted to Alaska only? They are sending the message to women to be rogue and take risks when pregnant so no one thinks you are disabled at 8 months.
Okay what is this "WV" thing? Somebody email me if this is too much of an insider joke to post about - nailinpalinnow@gmail.com
Helen,
WV = Word Verification
People like to make puns or see them as signs or omens.
It's fun and totally random.
00:11,
I would not doubt that in the least. It is exactly what quitters need to justify compulsive quitting. Take up a "new, better" project, leave the ungrateful fools behind with your last project. Always keep them guessing and keep your peeface grin so they think you are happy positive 24/7.
awe thanks patrick & kathleen. you guys & regina are my heros and I am not saying that in an off hand way like you say to someone who brings you a starbucks on a cold day! you three are real american heros and I know all your work will not be in vain.
I have had all the eye rolls and the "here she goes" comments when talking to people about this. My own mother even told me she would (not to be in-delicate here) "crap a gold brick" if it ever really came out that someone on the united states of america presidential ticket for a major part had actually faked a pregnancy. I told HER...that I am clearing the space on my shelf, lol! SP just disgusts me on such a personal level. I used to have as my on line handle "palindrome" -- because my name IS a palindrome. But once someone snapped at me for being a "palin DRONE" -- I have never used it again! I would rather be anonymous forever than have someone think I am a "palindroNe"!
One of my close friends asked me once why I even "care" about SP...and I told her, I do not CARE ABOUT SP -- I "care" about truth and justice and that her children do not have to keep up this abominable LIE their whole lives!
oh and speaking of the children: can anyone tell me why track's school bus issue was so hushed up, even for a "hot gov's" kid? last I knew, cutting the brake lines on "multiple" school buses -- was not a "prank" or "vandalism"...it's attempted murder of who knows how many innocent children. If that really happened, then someone dropped the ball big time by letting him join the army. He should be "joining" a cell in a concrete cube.
Got it Regina !
Well mine this time is "foofi"
Love it.
hannah Thank you for bringing up Track's attempt to kill off the kids of Wasilla and wrapping it in that nice vandal package. How did they fix him? Trained him to kill in the Army.
@hannah
Thanks a lot for your kind words! Interestingly, we three are all Europeans, so we cannot be American heros by definition, I guess! ;-)
However, I have to disagree. In my understanding a hero in this context is rather somebody who "is noted for feats of courage or nobility of purpose, especially one who has risked or sacrificed his or her life".
This doesn't apply to any of the bloggers or other Trig Truthers I know. We are not heroes. We just sit in front of our computers and try to make our contribution to world peace and whatever there is. We are certainly not in danger. Nobody has to sacrifice anything here.
Here are some
REAL HEROES
...and here we have
AMERICAN HEROES
I grew up a US Army brat and I still get weepy over a good war movie or documentary. It breaks my heart to see what is happening in the US military today.
Patrick,
Whatever happened to the picture of Willow that was being discussed at Audrey's site - the one that proved she was not the pregnant one?
anon. at 22:46--I don't think the hair is the same. The bangs are different. I have bangs like that, so I see every nuance on the bangs.
I think she keeps the pin on the black jacket in between wearings, ready for the next time. She is short, therefore she turned up the sleeves on many of her jackets back in the day (before RNC clothes).
Oh, there are several pics...we have some from September 2007 where Willow is definitely not pregnant, some from January 2008 - there was another pic, from March 2008, I guess (which might be one you were talking about).
IT AIN'T WILLOW ;-) - I am 100% certain. It's the older sister! ;-)
To whoever wants to get CBj to talk: Write letters to:
1)American Academy Of Family Physicians (AAFP). CBJ was family physician of the year 2002 i think. Voice your concern over the advice/care given to Palin and Trig.
2) Go to Alaska state board of licensure and lodge a complaint against her medical license. Can be done on line or via paper and snail mail.
3) Contact national midwive and ob/gyn groups voicing same concern.
I think NOW with the fairy tale book coming out is a good time to strike. If Sarah talks about the wild ride it will possibly make more people question the truth and wisdom of the advice and the ride. Wouldn't it be wonderful if public service announcements came out by these medical groups saying things like "Don't try this at home". Don't fly on two airplanes leaking amniotic fluid, especially if you have premature ruptured membranes and have a high risk pregnancy. Don't give birth in a podunk hospital without a pediatrician present if your baby is premature and trisomy 21.
I so hope that she plays up the wils ride in her book as any woman who gave birth and any thinking human will say "WUH???
The importance of the Wild Ride is its supporting the conclusion that the pregnancy was a hoax. Doesn't prove the hoax, but its sheer unbelievability is an important data point.
That having been said, IMO trying to get CBJ brought up before a licensing board based on her risky Wild Ride advice (if it even took place) is fanciful.
No one was harmed, no patients are complaining, and there are no eyewitnesses to malpractice (since SP NEVER GAVE BIRTH!). What licensing board is going to seriously entertain a complaint registered by a third party whose only "evidence" is what they read in the newspapers? A licensing board second-guessing a doctor's opinion in a case where there was no harm nor evidence of malpractice would be frivolous, if it actually took place.
It's one thing for a doctor to apply the wrong remedy to an obvious diagnosis, that results in actual harm. It's quite another thing for a doctor to make a medical decision that other doctors might disagree with, based on different assessments of "risk," that nevertheless leads to a benign result. The former case is clearly malpractice. The second is not.
And, frankly, this matter has pretty much been beaten to death already. Some news outlets covered the matter last fall. That nurse who posted at Celtic Diva, who believes SP gave birth to Trig, has been beating the drum on the recklessness aspect of the Wild Ride since last year, too. In both cases, the result has been the same: crickets chirping.
So, like it or not, absent any new evidence, CBJ will skate re the Wild Ride--until the entire hoax is exposed. Then she'll have some 'splainin' to do.
Anon at 22:46
I tried your link to photo and got nothing.
Help please?
To follow up on something I posted here 12 October 2009 12:05, about adding a scarf to the 4/13/08 Palin/Gusty photo, just for comparison sake:
I did that, and did a side-by-side comparison with a very similar post by Palin, that in the "back stairwell" video image from 4/08/08.
For clarity's sake, I outlined Palin's 4/13/08 bulging belly with a thin red line, and marked the angle of her elbow with another red line. I noticed she had her cuffs turned down in the 4/10/08 picture, and the cuffs were turned up (the better to see that belly?) in the 4/13/08 picture. I've posted my questions in a caption.
The second picture is a revised version of a picture one of the commenters on PD worked up about 10 months ago; the original picture consisted of the March 11, 2008 aqua jacket picture and the April 13, 2008 Gusty picture, with appropriate reference points and proportions.
My contribution to the picture is to orient them all the same direction, and add the April 10, 2008 outdoor picture where Palin is clutching a portfolio to her body at an angle that would be impossible if she were wearing the April 13, 2008 belly.
Notice in the March 11th picture there's a straight vertical line to her scarf, inside the belly line by several inches (of course, it IS a month earlier!) Keep in mind that a week prior to that picture she'd announced she was 7 months pregnant.
Anon @2 37
well pc grandma opened it I know. And Kathleen must have been able to in order to tell me what exact date it was from. So I am not sure...sometimes I have to copy then paste the first line, come back -- copy then paste the 2nd line.
Here it is in one line -- sorry in advance if it gets cut off:
http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu287/hannah-hohulin/shapeshifterpix.jpg
Patrick -- just like mother Teresa and Schindler...you do NOT have to be born in America to BE an American hero!
I would never diminish the contributions of the heros which you graciously deflected your praise upon. BUT -- I also refuse to diminish YOUR contribution! (and kathleens, and reginas)
SP has shown herself to be vindictive beyond measure, and her goons have silenced more than one blogger I am sure. You three have taken up a cause and refused to be bullied, scared, or intimidated away from the one thing we All have a right to, the truth.
I will make the concession to call you European heros FOR America -- but that is all! Heros you are and in my book, heros you will stay.
Ahahaha!! My best wv ever!
wv: waksfib
first meaning... SPs fib is whacked!
2nd meaning..."We All Know She Faked It, Baby!"
I couldn't open the link to the picture in Microsoft explorer, but I did using Firefox. So if you can't open the link are you using explorer? if so, try Firefox or another system.
Hannah,
Thank you. It worked from your link now.
She looks the same degree of pregnant in that one as the Gusty pics. So, she got the fake belly by April 10th then.
:)
Kathleen, Please do not get burned out over Palin. She is not worth it. We all so appreciate the tremendous efforts of you, Patrick and Regina.
I know what you mean...some days I grind my teeth in frustration over Palin getting away with the charade and the fact that MSM will not touch this story. COWARDS! Palin is extremely dangerous. Those who have been affected by her know this. We must continue to keep her out of the White House. Babygate stands head and tails over all the other "gates." Take a good rest and work this when you feel able. Sometimes I have to take a
"palin-free" day myself. This story is huge and it will not remain secret forever. Patrick's advice of knowing it will come is good. There are more of us out there now with you. Little snippets are coming forth about a strange weekend in Fairbanks Feb 15, 2008 and many other occurances that are not public yet. And someone close to Palin who is writing a book stating Palin truly believes she is "the chosen one." this all takes time. Someday we will join you with your fabulous silver champagne bucket in the sweetest toast ever! I'll bring the Veuve Cliquot! My favorite! S.H ;0)
Here's what we know about Sarah:
Appearance means more to her than anything. When she became pregnant with Trig, she felt genuinely out of control b/c her body began to change and she couldn't stop it. Hence, the very low weight gain (esp compared with her weight gain when pregnant with say Track where her tummy protruded two feet ahead). Sarah knows her appeal is her appearance. Period.
Trig's pregnancy threw a wrench into her appeal (is how she viewed it).
The real story is how damning and CRAZY her trip to Texas and esp back from Texas was. She put her unborn, high risk, special needs baby at HUGE risk. And she knows it.
Sarah loves all the attention devoted to people trying to determine Trig's real parentage - b/c she knows its her and Todd, but so long as folks froth at the trough of the birther narrative, Sarah can play the victim (for which she is legendary and Oscar worthy) and keep attention off the real story - how crazily and brazenly she put her child at risk.
Once her base has to face the facts of what actually happened (and this won't ever occur until all the energy and zeal on this and other like-minded sites is re-routed to holding SP's toes to the fire of her grossly poor judgement) then they will silently slip away from Palinpalooza-ville.
But not until then. Someone with some time should call one or two OB-GYN's in each state in the Union (that Sarah wants to be president of) and say, "just looking for advice. What if I had a friend who was pregnant at 43, was carrying a Down's baby, had her water begin to leak one month prior to delivery and decided to fly home - a trip that at it's fastest would take 10 hours. Should she seek medical help immediately where she is, or should she get on two planes and fly for almost 12 hours to get home? What do you think, doc?"
And record their answers.
My guess - not one will recommend what Sarah did.
It's shameful she's still getting away with it.
Shannyn and AKM: biggest travesty since Exxon-is Babygate, you both missed the boat.
Sarah's Waterbreak-gate is breaking and the truly unknown, brave citizen bloggers worth their weight with every keystroke will be acknowledged for what they did. A nation will thank them. They will go down in history books, not you. Along with Teapot dome, Watergate.
You both were slip slidin' your way, silently protecting your future gigs on KO or Rachel show instead. Muzzled is muzzled-even if ya did it to yourself.
So much for our Alaskan grown scandal being cracked open by Alaskans-however, thanks Gyphen and blog posters. What good is a national platform if you don't use it? Even sarcastic references to Babygate would work, slip in a reference to these Babygate blogs and how story (legitimate questions, SP in the news) hasn't gone away.
In terms of being an American hero, I'm afraid that Patrick, Kathleen, and Regina will have to provide an American birth certificate. And not just a certificate of live birth. We wouldn't want our American heroes to actually be from Kenya.
:-)
Seriously, thanks to EVERYONE who has put so much work into babygate. It might have been swept under the rug if it weren't for the many dedicated bloggers from around the world!
Anyone who saw Shannyn on KO yesterday would have to wonder if she's now drinking the Palin kool aid too. Let's see. She's hanging around with SP's MOST devoted fans. Claims on KO that SP is setting policy with "her" facebook. Doesn't mention SP isn't writing HER facebook. Talks about how she's the most powerful person in the GOP. Seems to me it's Shannyn that may be switching sides and not VO.
AKM has stated she believes SP gave birth to Trig, so you will never get any help from that side of the fence. That's why all the filters on her message board. She doesn't want to hear the truth. Whoever suggested above that it would be OK for both of them to talk about it once it breaks is WRONG. They have both repeatedly avoided this issue when both of them had the POWER to bring this issue to light. It would be appaling for them to chime in with their observations after the fact. That ship has sailed
My major beef with AKM & SM is not that they don't believe or choose not to talk about babygate. My problem...is that they refuse to even acknowledge those of us who DO believe it/want to talk about it. It's not like there are just a handful of us -- there are thousands, TENS of thousands...across every state and many countries...not to mention scattered all over their very own home state. Yet they treat us like lepers -- like there isn't this GIANT pile evidence supporting our cause. It's offensive.
Insult to injury is that you know they WILL be all over this when it finally breaks...being hailed by all as part of the determined group of "Alaska bloggers" who brought babygate crashing down. And personally -- I doubt very seriously that they'll still be acting like babygate doesn't exist. Meanwhile, people who did literally every ounce of gruelling, maddening legwork- like Regina, Patrick, Cathleen, and Gryphen -- will simply be the ones on whose backs AKM and SM step on in order to reach the cameras faster.
Ask me how I really feel, lol
(no offense meant to AKM or SM -- they do great work in their own right & should be proud of that -- but ignoring a major issue is no favor to anyone ... except SP)
What is the truth? the latest photos and videos posted here do nothing more than convince me that Palin WAS pregnant!
Not every blogger wants to join the crazy fringe and leave them alone if they choose not to.
I think Audrey put it best on PD when after not posting for a week or so....
All of her readers had their panties in a twist and she commented that she wasn't doing her blog merely to entertain readers. She was doing it to get to the bottom of the Palin Preg issue. She wasn't going to put a post out each day so that her loyal readers had fodder to comment on but many weren't happy with that and left.
All I'm saying is I don't think this is going to turn out the way that any of us thinks it is and besides, it may never come to the surface.
I'm frustrated and so are many of you but lay off those that choose not to enter into the Trig Truther realm with their otherwise respected blogs.
AKM and Shannyn may never need to address this because it's probably never going to come to that point. Could be that Sarah Palin gets one over on those who believe that Trig is not hers. Could be that she doesn't. Sarah Palin has so many other deeds that will be examined and brought to light that the Trig issue is probably one of the smallest.
Suffice it to say, it does look as if she won't be a serious primary consideration for the GOP, which is all I care about.
Where Trig came from? Not so much, don't care any longer and kudos to the Palin camp for making it so difficult to get answers. She plays the "obstruction card" really well. Probably her best political attribute.
Hey I'm the Lucy Rupert from the 8 months and pregnant dancing to Eminem video on Youtube that someone mentioned above.
I doubt that I'm 20 years younger, thanks for the compliment, but I was very small throughout my pregnancy, so I had no problem getting up out of a chair or dancing every day at 8 months-- but I am also 5'8" and I dance every day to begin with. I have been training like an athlete for 15 years. I doubt SP has that kind of activity supporting her pregnant belly.
Every pregnancy is different but to me the telling thing about SP is how small her belly appeared to be for so long during her 'pregnancy'. Don't women usually show earlier when they are on their second or third one? Especially if they are not athletes or dancers etc?
the whole thing is appalling, but not as appalling as her ignorance (and I don't just mean that she's stupid or uneducated) and how close to power she got.
However, if a faked pregnancy can take her down from her soapbox permanently, then ring those bells, everybody, ring those bells!
Hi Lucy, thanks for checking in ! Yes, women do show earlier in subsequent pregnancies, it has to do with the stomach muscles separating to accommodate the uterus, after they have separated the first time they will do so earlier the next time(s). Doesn't matter how good a shape you are in. Look at Heidi Klum, in recent photos she looked like a multipara near term and was standing braced to accommodate the weight of her belly. The way Miss Sarah is standing in the Gusty picture is not the way a woman actually carrying that much weight inside of her would stand.
I am not an athlete or a dancer (the kids loved ballet tho and got really good) but never showed much. Reason : long torso. Miss Sarah is only 5'3"
and has long legs. And a short torso. The ONLY place the baby can go is OUT.
The whole thing is appalling, and the most appalling part about it is that her 'supermom' persona was a big part of her appeal and one of the reasons that she got so close (we forget already, but those days only one year ago are forever burned in my mind) to being, as the saying goes,
one 72 year old heartbeat away from being POTUS.
And I thing THAT is why the good people here are
not going to give up and go home. Since Miss Sarah is so, um, religious, here is a famous quote she might someday come to appreciate :
"The wheels of God grind slow,
but they grind exceeding fine."
Read somewhere, Judy Patrick buys clothes for Sarah at one of the consignment shops in Anchorage. She would know if she had to purchase larger sizes during the pregnancy period. Has anyone in AK talked to her about Sarah's size?
Wow, you really should get a life! Why on earth would she fake a pregnancy and then her daughter for whom she allegedly faked it for gives birth to a full-term baby 8 months later?
You are hilarious!
But I'm sure you are all super in shape healthy athletes who have give birth before. Because maybe if you ran as often as Sarah runs you would have tighter abdominal muscles.
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